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HOW BIG A HERD TO MAKE IT A FULL TIME JOB??
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<blockquote data-quote="SRBeef" data-source="post: 932984" data-attributes="member: 7509"><p>This is a very interesting discussion about a question that really has no one answer. The answer depends on where you are, what exactly you are selling (most replies seem to assume cow/calf selling the calves at the sale barn at weaning), etc...</p><p></p><p>Most also assume that the land/house/fences/well is/has been paid for by other income.</p><p></p><p>A number I have read from several universities is that it costs $500/year to own a cow. It looks to me like that is fairly accurate, whether you raise hay, buy hay, carry additional land to stockpile forage... in the end it comes down to about $500/yr/cow. Add maybe $150 for the calf. Total is about $650 annually to get to a 600 lb 205 day calf in the fall.</p><p></p><p>Selling that calf at $1.50 at the sale barn grosses $900.</p><p></p><p>If you accept this then $900 income - $650 expense = $250./cow per year net income.</p><p></p><p>Then if you figure what income you need to live on, divide by $250 and thats the number of cows you need. If that number is $50,000 to pay real estate taxes and living expenses, then you need 200 cows.</p><p></p><p>But the sticking point here is what is the carrying capacity of your land? If it takes 5 acres/cow-pair then you need 1000 acres of paid up land to make $50,000 income from your 200 cows. :shock: </p><p></p><p>Depending on the cost of land in your 5a/pr area, that land is likely now in the price range of $2,000/a. So 1,000a of $2,000 land = $2 million dollars of land to make $50,000 ??? :shock: :shock: </p><p></p><p>Unless you just won the lottery, I think there are few people that can really go this route.</p><p></p><p>So it seems to me most folks would have to change some of the above. But there are only a few variables to work with. You need more income per cow and higher carrying capacity per acre.</p><p></p><p>I think this is where Agmantoo comes in along with rotational grazing and looking at much higher carrying capacity and looking at selling a different end product rather than just loading up the calves to the sale barn...</p><p></p><p>Interesting and thought provoking.</p><p></p><p>Jim</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SRBeef, post: 932984, member: 7509"] This is a very interesting discussion about a question that really has no one answer. The answer depends on where you are, what exactly you are selling (most replies seem to assume cow/calf selling the calves at the sale barn at weaning), etc... Most also assume that the land/house/fences/well is/has been paid for by other income. A number I have read from several universities is that it costs $500/year to own a cow. It looks to me like that is fairly accurate, whether you raise hay, buy hay, carry additional land to stockpile forage... in the end it comes down to about $500/yr/cow. Add maybe $150 for the calf. Total is about $650 annually to get to a 600 lb 205 day calf in the fall. Selling that calf at $1.50 at the sale barn grosses $900. If you accept this then $900 income - $650 expense = $250./cow per year net income. Then if you figure what income you need to live on, divide by $250 and thats the number of cows you need. If that number is $50,000 to pay real estate taxes and living expenses, then you need 200 cows. But the sticking point here is what is the carrying capacity of your land? If it takes 5 acres/cow-pair then you need 1000 acres of paid up land to make $50,000 income from your 200 cows. :shock: Depending on the cost of land in your 5a/pr area, that land is likely now in the price range of $2,000/a. So 1,000a of $2,000 land = $2 million dollars of land to make $50,000 ??? :shock: :shock: Unless you just won the lottery, I think there are few people that can really go this route. So it seems to me most folks would have to change some of the above. But there are only a few variables to work with. You need more income per cow and higher carrying capacity per acre. I think this is where Agmantoo comes in along with rotational grazing and looking at much higher carrying capacity and looking at selling a different end product rather than just loading up the calves to the sale barn... Interesting and thought provoking. Jim [/QUOTE]
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