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<blockquote data-quote="Alan" data-source="post: 980178" data-attributes="member: 378"><p>Holly, Your narrow minded view is part of what has became a huge problem in the horse industry. I have raised, bred, trained horses for the last thirty years, here's my thoughts, asked for or not;</p><p></p><p>1. Horses are not companion animals at all, yes they do have personalities and uniqueness. But they are not like a dog or cat. Look at the eye set of a dog placed in the front of the skull like humans, a predator. A horse, like cattle are on the side of the skull, like all prey animals. You train and handle a horse much different than dogs. Treating horses as you would a dog is what ruins horses and gets people hurt. You frighten a horse or hurt it, it will take weeks to fix and regain a level of trust. You smack a dog with a newspaper he/she is back wagging it's tail in two minutes. No way in the world is a horse a companion animal.</p><p></p><p>2. My wife owns five horses and I have one. She has a TB that was rescued at two from racing trainer. A year later it was rescued from the rescuer. No horse should have to be rescued once let alone twice. It's easy to project an image over the Internet, but if you in the habit of rescuing horses you dam well better be able to provide a healthy environment for all those animals. I don't know you or your situation and I'm not saying you don't ...... Just saying. Through my horse years I have ran into too many brainless do gooders that take on too much and the animals suffer.</p><p></p><p>3. The ban on horse slaughter has ruined the horse industry and is doing plenty of harm in other ways. My horse is a QH Stallion that an appraiser valued at $15k for insurance, he's 5 yrs old. The slaughter ban went into effect and I don't think I could sell him for three grand now and wouldn't. The 7 yr old 4 H kid can't sell her 18 yr old pony to buy a 9 yr old QH she is now ready for. The high school girl can't sell her 9yr old QH to little 4 H'er in order to buy her well bred barrel horse and so on. The ban has killed the horse industry. Also what are some folks doing with their unwanted horses? The smarter ones rent a backhoe and walk the horse out to the hole with a 30-30. A lot of folks just haul the horses out to the woods or desert and open the trailer door. In many states, Oregon included, it's not illegal to release "livestock" ..... By the definition of the law horses are livestock. Some just starve the horse in hopes it will get rescued. The worse harm ever caused to horses was a ban put on horse slaughter.</p><p></p><p>4. In Oregon, Nevada and other states the BLM round up wild (feral) horses every year and try to adopt them out, they do this to help control their population. For years it was very successful and a win win. Now with the slaughter ban very few of these feral horses go out for adoption. What do you think the government does with the excess horses they can't place??? The Slaughter ban sure helped them huh?</p><p></p><p>Sign all the petitions you want, it's narrow minded idiots with tunnel vision that is doing more harm to horses in general than there ever has in the recent past. That's not a personal attack on you, you have your opinion, the attack is on everyone with a similar opinion as yours. Oh you might sense I have a strong opinion also.</p><p></p><p>Just a view from the other side. :tiphat: </p><p></p><p>Alan</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alan, post: 980178, member: 378"] Holly, Your narrow minded view is part of what has became a huge problem in the horse industry. I have raised, bred, trained horses for the last thirty years, here's my thoughts, asked for or not; 1. Horses are not companion animals at all, yes they do have personalities and uniqueness. But they are not like a dog or cat. Look at the eye set of a dog placed in the front of the skull like humans, a predator. A horse, like cattle are on the side of the skull, like all prey animals. You train and handle a horse much different than dogs. Treating horses as you would a dog is what ruins horses and gets people hurt. You frighten a horse or hurt it, it will take weeks to fix and regain a level of trust. You smack a dog with a newspaper he/she is back wagging it's tail in two minutes. No way in the world is a horse a companion animal. 2. My wife owns five horses and I have one. She has a TB that was rescued at two from racing trainer. A year later it was rescued from the rescuer. No horse should have to be rescued once let alone twice. It's easy to project an image over the Internet, but if you in the habit of rescuing horses you dam well better be able to provide a healthy environment for all those animals. I don't know you or your situation and I'm not saying you don't ...... Just saying. Through my horse years I have ran into too many brainless do gooders that take on too much and the animals suffer. 3. The ban on horse slaughter has ruined the horse industry and is doing plenty of harm in other ways. My horse is a QH Stallion that an appraiser valued at $15k for insurance, he's 5 yrs old. The slaughter ban went into effect and I don't think I could sell him for three grand now and wouldn't. The 7 yr old 4 H kid can't sell her 18 yr old pony to buy a 9 yr old QH she is now ready for. The high school girl can't sell her 9yr old QH to little 4 H'er in order to buy her well bred barrel horse and so on. The ban has killed the horse industry. Also what are some folks doing with their unwanted horses? The smarter ones rent a backhoe and walk the horse out to the hole with a 30-30. A lot of folks just haul the horses out to the woods or desert and open the trailer door. In many states, Oregon included, it's not illegal to release "livestock" ..... By the definition of the law horses are livestock. Some just starve the horse in hopes it will get rescued. The worse harm ever caused to horses was a ban put on horse slaughter. 4. In Oregon, Nevada and other states the BLM round up wild (feral) horses every year and try to adopt them out, they do this to help control their population. For years it was very successful and a win win. Now with the slaughter ban very few of these feral horses go out for adoption. What do you think the government does with the excess horses they can't place??? The Slaughter ban sure helped them huh? Sign all the petitions you want, it's narrow minded idiots with tunnel vision that is doing more harm to horses in general than there ever has in the recent past. That's not a personal attack on you, you have your opinion, the attack is on everyone with a similar opinion as yours. Oh you might sense I have a strong opinion also. Just a view from the other side. :tiphat: Alan [/QUOTE]
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