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<blockquote data-quote="Brandonm22" data-source="post: 804999" data-attributes="member: 7645"><p>I have never heard of one, though the difficult part would be getting consensus on what IS exactly Angus. Do we assume that cattle breeders in the 1950s were more honest than cattle breeders in the 1970s thus those cattle are more likely to be pure???? If nonAngus genetics found their way into the herd book in the 1970s, how much more likely is it that nonAngus genetics found their way into the herd book in the 1870s and 1890s when the American ANgus herd was growing exponentially? Do we go back to Scotland and find some legacy herd there and set that as the standard? how the heck would you tell the difference between a 3/4 blood Angus and a fullblood Angus and how would you be able to PROVE that the genes that appear to be non-Angus weren't part of Angus's genetic diversity 100 years ago?? Undoubtedly there are as many genes that were in the Angus genotype in the 1850s that were lost over the years as there are nonAngus genes that have been added through unscrupulous behavior, negligent management, or completely accidental (bulls will be bulls afterall). Finally what would you do with that information if you had it??? I certainly would never publish it given the high likelihood that (1) I would lose a lot of friends when I exposed their cattle as being fraudulent and in a lot of cases their daddys and (2) probably spend numerous years in court being sued.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brandonm22, post: 804999, member: 7645"] I have never heard of one, though the difficult part would be getting consensus on what IS exactly Angus. Do we assume that cattle breeders in the 1950s were more honest than cattle breeders in the 1970s thus those cattle are more likely to be pure???? If nonAngus genetics found their way into the herd book in the 1970s, how much more likely is it that nonAngus genetics found their way into the herd book in the 1870s and 1890s when the American ANgus herd was growing exponentially? Do we go back to Scotland and find some legacy herd there and set that as the standard? how the heck would you tell the difference between a 3/4 blood Angus and a fullblood Angus and how would you be able to PROVE that the genes that appear to be non-Angus weren't part of Angus's genetic diversity 100 years ago?? Undoubtedly there are as many genes that were in the Angus genotype in the 1850s that were lost over the years as there are nonAngus genes that have been added through unscrupulous behavior, negligent management, or completely accidental (bulls will be bulls afterall). Finally what would you do with that information if you had it??? I certainly would never publish it given the high likelihood that (1) I would lose a lot of friends when I exposed their cattle as being fraudulent and in a lot of cases their daddys and (2) probably spend numerous years in court being sued. [/QUOTE]
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