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<blockquote data-quote="djinwa" data-source="post: 622022" data-attributes="member: 8265"><p>Keren, you bring up a good point – one of many that those of us trained in government schools failed to learn. That is, correlation does not mean causation.</p><p></p><p>Because a homeschooled child is shy does not mean the homeschooling caused it. They probably also eat beef – is that the cause of anti-social behavior?</p><p></p><p>You'd think people on a cattle website would occasionally mention the role of genetics. We can select for disposition in cattle – why do we not accept it is passed along in humans? It is possible that less social parents are more likely to homeschool, and their children are genetically more likely to be shy. So genetics could be determining the shyness, not the homeschooling.</p><p></p><p>Interesting that everyone assumes that strong social abilities are critical for everyone. While it is true that we need to have a minimum level of function (leaving the house), I find it a problem when people are TOO social. At work, it is often more efficient for certain jobs to be done separately, but many can't work alone! They get lonesome. So you see three guys doing what one could do. And of course, there's the time spent BSing around the coffee pot. I have concluded that most go to work not to work, but to socialize. I guess that's considered a great skill. We need some people that can work by themselves.</p><p></p><p>I guess our economy also depends on strong social ties. After all, if you don't have the right clothes, house, cars, party, etc, you won't be accepted by others, right? Nerds don't buy into all that crap. Yes, we're in a big financial crisis, largely due to our gluttony built on personal and public debt. How kids can be issued a diploma without mastering personal and public finance is beyond me. The goal is to get kids to be big earners and even bigger spenders to keep up with their neighbors.</p><p></p><p>Greatly social people also fail to question the system. Especially a government school will promote the greatness of our current "leaders" who not only provide the school's salaries, but waste trillions of dollars on various scams. All in violation of the highest law, the Constitution, now considered to be a joke. Yes, because we're trained to "get along" we're all willing to drink the Koolaid.</p><p></p><p>Genetics are also the primary determinant of intelligence, and intelligence is the best indicator of future success. Many claim college is necessary for a better salary. But it just so happens that the naturally smarter kids go to college, and they'd do well regardless. As recently stated on a 20/20 show, you could lock them in a closet for 4 years and they'd make more money than others.</p><p></p><p>Likewise, I think the schools could be shut down tomorrow, and the smart and ambitious kids would find a way to learn, especially when they get hungry. We force-feed information and wonder why many aren't interested – we need labor – let them dig ditches if they want.</p><p></p><p>I could go on, but......</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="djinwa, post: 622022, member: 8265"] Keren, you bring up a good point – one of many that those of us trained in government schools failed to learn. That is, correlation does not mean causation. Because a homeschooled child is shy does not mean the homeschooling caused it. They probably also eat beef – is that the cause of anti-social behavior? You’d think people on a cattle website would occasionally mention the role of genetics. We can select for disposition in cattle – why do we not accept it is passed along in humans? It is possible that less social parents are more likely to homeschool, and their children are genetically more likely to be shy. So genetics could be determining the shyness, not the homeschooling. Interesting that everyone assumes that strong social abilities are critical for everyone. While it is true that we need to have a minimum level of function (leaving the house), I find it a problem when people are TOO social. At work, it is often more efficient for certain jobs to be done separately, but many can’t work alone! They get lonesome. So you see three guys doing what one could do. And of course, there’s the time spent BSing around the coffee pot. I have concluded that most go to work not to work, but to socialize. I guess that’s considered a great skill. We need some people that can work by themselves. I guess our economy also depends on strong social ties. After all, if you don’t have the right clothes, house, cars, party, etc, you won’t be accepted by others, right? Nerds don’t buy into all that crap. Yes, we’re in a big financial crisis, largely due to our gluttony built on personal and public debt. How kids can be issued a diploma without mastering personal and public finance is beyond me. The goal is to get kids to be big earners and even bigger spenders to keep up with their neighbors. Greatly social people also fail to question the system. Especially a government school will promote the greatness of our current “leaders” who not only provide the school’s salaries, but waste trillions of dollars on various scams. All in violation of the highest law, the Constitution, now considered to be a joke. Yes, because we're trained to "get along" we're all willing to drink the Koolaid. Genetics are also the primary determinant of intelligence, and intelligence is the best indicator of future success. Many claim college is necessary for a better salary. But it just so happens that the naturally smarter kids go to college, and they’d do well regardless. As recently stated on a 20/20 show, you could lock them in a closet for 4 years and they’d make more money than others. Likewise, I think the schools could be shut down tomorrow, and the smart and ambitious kids would find a way to learn, especially when they get hungry. We force-feed information and wonder why many aren’t interested – we need labor – let them dig ditches if they want. I could go on, but...... [/QUOTE]
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