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<blockquote data-quote="hillsdown" data-source="post: 708047" data-attributes="member: 5106"><p>Like what was said you get what you breed for. In the 70's there was a change in breeding and North America decided that bigger was better so that is what they bred for. Our Holsteins are much larger than the original dutch Holsteins. However with more milking parlors and less stanchion barns the trend is moving toward more moderate framed cows rather than frame 9's..</p><p></p><p>As for bulls I doubt bottle feeding has anything to do with it. It is the breeding of docility towards humans over the last 75 years or so that is more likely the cause.</p><p></p><p>All of our calves were bottle fed and that included bulls that were sold to other dairies for clean ups. We never had one charge or kill anyone .. The main thing is that herd bulls are held onto for to long .. 2 years is long enough for Holstein clean up bull after that they seem to lose all respect for everyone and become mean. The one that tried to kill me was 4 years old and I had complained about him often unheard until that dreadful day. He weighed 2700 lbs and it took 6 of us to load him 5 men and myself. He kicked the crap out of the stock trailer and caused a few thousand dollars in repairs to it. He was kept wayyyyy to long. He should have been taken care of with bullet instead of been hauled away for 73 cents a pound. We didn't raise this guy but bought him from a Master Breeder herd .</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hillsdown, post: 708047, member: 5106"] Like what was said you get what you breed for. In the 70's there was a change in breeding and North America decided that bigger was better so that is what they bred for. Our Holsteins are much larger than the original dutch Holsteins. However with more milking parlors and less stanchion barns the trend is moving toward more moderate framed cows rather than frame 9's.. As for bulls I doubt bottle feeding has anything to do with it. It is the breeding of docility towards humans over the last 75 years or so that is more likely the cause. All of our calves were bottle fed and that included bulls that were sold to other dairies for clean ups. We never had one charge or kill anyone .. The main thing is that herd bulls are held onto for to long .. 2 years is long enough for Holstein clean up bull after that they seem to lose all respect for everyone and become mean. The one that tried to kill me was 4 years old and I had complained about him often unheard until that dreadful day. He weighed 2700 lbs and it took 6 of us to load him 5 men and myself. He kicked the crap out of the stock trailer and caused a few thousand dollars in repairs to it. He was kept wayyyyy to long. He should have been taken care of with bullet instead of been hauled away for 73 cents a pound. We didn't raise this guy but bought him from a Master Breeder herd . [/QUOTE]
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