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<blockquote data-quote="KNERSIE" data-source="post: 371614" data-attributes="member: 4353"><p>Mike, I am not sure I agree. Have you read any literature saying what the weaning weights were in 1870? I personally think the feed convertion rate of 14:1 and the 250 lbs weaning weights were the result of the drive for the pony type, or comprest type as it was called in the herefords. They chased a fashion by selecting for smaller and smaller more compact cattle and bred all the growth and feed convertion out of the cattle. By selecting the smaller cattle they achieved their goal of negative frame creep, but also selected those with the lowest growth potential.</p><p></p><p>There were many extremes over the years ranging from too big to too small to gigantic to growth freaks and back to more moderate cattle of today. Take a look again at the herefords of 1870-1920 and compare them to the herefords of the late 80's early 90's and ask yourself just how much progress was made.</p><p></p><p>For me personally, Don Carlos, a son of Anxiety 4th and his son Beau Brummel will fit into my breeding program perfectly and both of them were born before the turn of the previous century. </p><p></p><p>What I find amazing at times is the fact that we try and correct what was already correct 100 years ago, somehow those traits got lost and we try our utmost to improve those weakpoints when the ideal was reached many years ago. We must also remember that the breeders from 1920 -1990 also thought they were improving the breed at the time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KNERSIE, post: 371614, member: 4353"] Mike, I am not sure I agree. Have you read any literature saying what the weaning weights were in 1870? I personally think the feed convertion rate of 14:1 and the 250 lbs weaning weights were the result of the drive for the pony type, or comprest type as it was called in the herefords. They chased a fashion by selecting for smaller and smaller more compact cattle and bred all the growth and feed convertion out of the cattle. By selecting the smaller cattle they achieved their goal of negative frame creep, but also selected those with the lowest growth potential. There were many extremes over the years ranging from too big to too small to gigantic to growth freaks and back to more moderate cattle of today. Take a look again at the herefords of 1870-1920 and compare them to the herefords of the late 80's early 90's and ask yourself just how much progress was made. For me personally, Don Carlos, a son of Anxiety 4th and his son Beau Brummel will fit into my breeding program perfectly and both of them were born before the turn of the previous century. What I find amazing at times is the fact that we try and correct what was already correct 100 years ago, somehow those traits got lost and we try our utmost to improve those weakpoints when the ideal was reached many years ago. We must also remember that the breeders from 1920 -1990 also thought they were improving the breed at the time. [/QUOTE]
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