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<blockquote data-quote="red angus shower" data-source="post: 653267" data-attributes="member: 11028"><p>I understand what Doc is getting at, but if they had several different pedigrees on the cows and few of the calves were kept, that sounds like something is up. All that genetic diversity should have produced something. But without going to someone's place, you can't determine what that specific producer is looking for, maybe they wanted something the bull wasn't giving them. And if those big breeders are using this bull, or genetic similar, you cannot determine how many they have kept either, unless you look them up on the AAA website (like I have time to do that). And of course, like with club calves, when you have several thousand cows being bred to one bull, you're going to get good ones and sch!tty ones. Look at Who Made Who, some great steers and heifers came from him, but there were far more who never made it to the show ring.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="red angus shower, post: 653267, member: 11028"] I understand what Doc is getting at, but if they had several different pedigrees on the cows and few of the calves were kept, that sounds like something is up. All that genetic diversity should have produced something. But without going to someone's place, you can't determine what that specific producer is looking for, maybe they wanted something the bull wasn't giving them. And if those big breeders are using this bull, or genetic similar, you cannot determine how many they have kept either, unless you look them up on the AAA website (like I have time to do that). And of course, like with club calves, when you have several thousand cows being bred to one bull, you're going to get good ones and sch!tty ones. Look at Who Made Who, some great steers and heifers came from him, but there were far more who never made it to the show ring. [/QUOTE]
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