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<blockquote data-quote="Herefords.US" data-source="post: 751830" data-attributes="member: 3972"><p>Idaman, any speculation here at CT that you might be a troll can now be put to rest! </p><p></p><p>Carl Martin would be a name that very few people involved with Herefords today would recognize. In fact, I would say he was almost unknown to most folks on a national level back in the 70s! He had Anxiety 4th influenced cattle - Lamplighter, Blanchard and Mischief Return, although I'm not sure his cattle would "certify" as being total descendants from the Gudgell and Simpson herd. I don't think he was a member of the National Anxiety 4th Breeders Association. Because my father's focus and interest was in the CERTIFIED Anxiety 4th bloodline cattle at that time, I cannot recall ever actually seeing any of Carl Martin's cattle -although I probably did. I think he had been a Hereford breeder for 20-25 years by 1970 and he was using his own bulls in his herd, so he must have been doing some linebreeding.</p><p></p><p>Most of my "historical knowledge" comes from the period of 1960 to 1985, Idaman, when I was actively involved with Hereford cattle. I got out of the cattle business in 1985 and didn't personally own any Hereford cattle until 2002 when I purchased the first foundation females for my present herd. My father was still in business during much of that period between 1985 and 2002, but he had straightbred Anxiety 4th cattle, which were totally out of favor, and almost disappeared during that time. Truthfully, my Dad's hardheadedness and commitment to the Anxiety 4th bloodline was what caused me to dissolve my partnership with him and get out of the cattle business in 1985. Looking back now, I realize that I was "young and stupid". I really wanted to chase the Line 1 and increasing frame and weight fad - and I truly didn't fully appreciate the cattle we had. One thing I've discovered since returning to the business and buying into the Hereford breed's "latest and greatest" is that those old Anxiety 4th cattle we had back then were pretty darn good....and the best of them were the ones that were the most tightly linebred.</p><p></p><p>From your posts here, I'd say your "historical knowledge" of Hereford cattle is also better than what it is on the current trends of the breed! I'm very interested in your experiences, particularly interested in anything you could provide regarding Ferry Carpenter and his cattle. </p><p></p><p>George</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Herefords.US, post: 751830, member: 3972"] Idaman, any speculation here at CT that you might be a troll can now be put to rest! Carl Martin would be a name that very few people involved with Herefords today would recognize. In fact, I would say he was almost unknown to most folks on a national level back in the 70s! He had Anxiety 4th influenced cattle - Lamplighter, Blanchard and Mischief Return, although I'm not sure his cattle would "certify" as being total descendants from the Gudgell and Simpson herd. I don't think he was a member of the National Anxiety 4th Breeders Association. Because my father's focus and interest was in the CERTIFIED Anxiety 4th bloodline cattle at that time, I cannot recall ever actually seeing any of Carl Martin's cattle -although I probably did. I think he had been a Hereford breeder for 20-25 years by 1970 and he was using his own bulls in his herd, so he must have been doing some linebreeding. Most of my "historical knowledge" comes from the period of 1960 to 1985, Idaman, when I was actively involved with Hereford cattle. I got out of the cattle business in 1985 and didn't personally own any Hereford cattle until 2002 when I purchased the first foundation females for my present herd. My father was still in business during much of that period between 1985 and 2002, but he had straightbred Anxiety 4th cattle, which were totally out of favor, and almost disappeared during that time. Truthfully, my Dad's hardheadedness and commitment to the Anxiety 4th bloodline was what caused me to dissolve my partnership with him and get out of the cattle business in 1985. Looking back now, I realize that I was "young and stupid". I really wanted to chase the Line 1 and increasing frame and weight fad - and I truly didn't fully appreciate the cattle we had. One thing I've discovered since returning to the business and buying into the Hereford breed's "latest and greatest" is that those old Anxiety 4th cattle we had back then were pretty darn good....and the best of them were the ones that were the most tightly linebred. From your posts here, I'd say your "historical knowledge" of Hereford cattle is also better than what it is on the current trends of the breed! I'm very interested in your experiences, particularly interested in anything you could provide regarding Ferry Carpenter and his cattle. George [/QUOTE]
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