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<blockquote data-quote="Beef Man" data-source="post: 737187" data-attributes="member: 13859"><p>I'm sorry that I steped on some of your toes or hurt your feelings but still believe that the show ring and what happens there is a poor way to build a breed. It is quite often a feeding--fiting contest. It does have a place as it is agood place to visit and take some time off from the work at home and not feel to guilty about that because we are attending a business related event. As for me being stipid that is just your opinion and doe'snt bother me a bit.I helped show cattle in Denver55 years ago and attended that show many times in the past as well as many years at Mt. Winter Fair and Missoula Top cut. Does'nt make me a expert but do remember some great show men and there influence on the hereford breed. I saw and learned so much out behind the barns or in the nurse cow areas that wer'nt only wrong they were downright dishonest and realized that if I was going to be a breeder and look at myself in the mirror every morning and teach my kids right from wrong that it wouldnt be as a show ring producer. That said many of the most successful people in many of the breeds never put a halter on a bull to sell him. As to polled versus horned in this area it is very hard to market polled steers and we have been severe'ly critisized for throwing in a few polled steers on aload of horned feeder steers. Also as we handle quite a lot of breeding herefords, we have alot of commercial buyers that will not take a polled heifer. Been in this biz. 60 years and been herefords on this placesince 1910. So i am not new to the breed. We do at this time have some polled cattle and figure that they are about 5-6 generations behind the horned herd. They have and are makeing improvement and someday long after I'm gone will perhaps measure up. There is not at this time or has ther ever been a commercial ranch here that was all polled hereford. The main reason for polled herefords here is to use on the many black cows that make up east mt.'s cow herd and "yes" most know that horned bull on pure angus cow is polled calf but a great amount of the black cattle are just that. only black. One other thing the polled bull-- FHR Gentic Giant was bred and born here and went to Frank Felton and he being strait horned blood was very typically polled bull as i stated before. Once again I'm sorry to offend you and do see a place for the polled breed but it will be awhile before they can take their place as an equal to the horned cattle.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Beef Man, post: 737187, member: 13859"] I'm sorry that I steped on some of your toes or hurt your feelings but still believe that the show ring and what happens there is a poor way to build a breed. It is quite often a feeding--fiting contest. It does have a place as it is agood place to visit and take some time off from the work at home and not feel to guilty about that because we are attending a business related event. As for me being stipid that is just your opinion and doe'snt bother me a bit.I helped show cattle in Denver55 years ago and attended that show many times in the past as well as many years at Mt. Winter Fair and Missoula Top cut. Does'nt make me a expert but do remember some great show men and there influence on the hereford breed. I saw and learned so much out behind the barns or in the nurse cow areas that wer'nt only wrong they were downright dishonest and realized that if I was going to be a breeder and look at myself in the mirror every morning and teach my kids right from wrong that it wouldnt be as a show ring producer. That said many of the most successful people in many of the breeds never put a halter on a bull to sell him. As to polled versus horned in this area it is very hard to market polled steers and we have been severe'ly critisized for throwing in a few polled steers on aload of horned feeder steers. Also as we handle quite a lot of breeding herefords, we have alot of commercial buyers that will not take a polled heifer. Been in this biz. 60 years and been herefords on this placesince 1910. So i am not new to the breed. We do at this time have some polled cattle and figure that they are about 5-6 generations behind the horned herd. They have and are makeing improvement and someday long after I'm gone will perhaps measure up. There is not at this time or has ther ever been a commercial ranch here that was all polled hereford. The main reason for polled herefords here is to use on the many black cows that make up east mt.'s cow herd and "yes" most know that horned bull on pure angus cow is polled calf but a great amount of the black cattle are just that. only black. One other thing the polled bull-- FHR Gentic Giant was bred and born here and went to Frank Felton and he being strait horned blood was very typically polled bull as i stated before. Once again I'm sorry to offend you and do see a place for the polled breed but it will be awhile before they can take their place as an equal to the horned cattle. [/QUOTE]
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