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<blockquote data-quote="bcarty" data-source="post: 1133093" data-attributes="member: 17617"><p>Whew.... throw a little water on this fire..... or maybe gasoline. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p>As cattle producers we all have a moral obligation to the next guy to try and produce the very best cattle we can produce. This little Hereford bull is representing the vast majority of the cattle producers in the US. Most of them try to buy their stock at the sale barn and get them bred to sale barn bought bulls and try to make a profit in some way. (My own personal opinion is that this is a big problem with the feeder calf market because guys that do this want the same money for their calves as the people who put in more time and effort to produce a better end product, but my opinion doesn't amount to much.) </p><p>If everyone would try to produce the best cattle they can reasonably produce then we cannot fault them on the way they do things as long as they are honest about what they have produced. People who buy all salebarn cattle and then breed them to sale barn bulls should get bottom tier prices for their calves. Im not saying that those are not good calves because many times there are good cattle sold through the sale barn that people can take advantage of if they are willing to take the risk. I sell all my old bulls through the sale barn and they are usually registered. Im not saying my old bulls are really good, but I do my homework and the bulls I do use are excellent in many traits and they could help many people move their cowherds in the right direction (IMHO). Many producers do this with their old bulls and there are some values to be had if you only need a bull for a short time and are willing to assume some risk. (bull may be infertile or injured) That same bull might just have gotten to the point that the producer has kept a lot of his daughters and is unwilling to linebreed any further so he is sold. </p><p></p><p>Whatever the case may be you should be honest with yourself and the other producers and expect to get paid for the type of animals you are presenting for sale. There is nothing wrong with someone using the young Hereford bull to breed a few cows and try to make a profit, in fact I applaud Calhoun Farm for attempting to do that, and I agree with most of the people on here that you will make money on the cows and the bull when you sell them. I would just ask that you are honest with the buyers when you sell them. If you are trying to build your own herd then being honest now will likely make an impression on the buyers that are present and you will have repeat customers in years to come just on honesty alone. Then its up to you to produce cattle that meet the needs of the buyer.</p><p></p><p>Just for the record whoever produced that Hereford bull has either lost his knife or his banders and someone needs to buy him another one. He would be better off in a feedlot than as a bull.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bcarty, post: 1133093, member: 17617"] Whew.... throw a little water on this fire..... or maybe gasoline. :D As cattle producers we all have a moral obligation to the next guy to try and produce the very best cattle we can produce. This little Hereford bull is representing the vast majority of the cattle producers in the US. Most of them try to buy their stock at the sale barn and get them bred to sale barn bought bulls and try to make a profit in some way. (My own personal opinion is that this is a big problem with the feeder calf market because guys that do this want the same money for their calves as the people who put in more time and effort to produce a better end product, but my opinion doesn't amount to much.) If everyone would try to produce the best cattle they can reasonably produce then we cannot fault them on the way they do things as long as they are honest about what they have produced. People who buy all salebarn cattle and then breed them to sale barn bulls should get bottom tier prices for their calves. Im not saying that those are not good calves because many times there are good cattle sold through the sale barn that people can take advantage of if they are willing to take the risk. I sell all my old bulls through the sale barn and they are usually registered. Im not saying my old bulls are really good, but I do my homework and the bulls I do use are excellent in many traits and they could help many people move their cowherds in the right direction (IMHO). Many producers do this with their old bulls and there are some values to be had if you only need a bull for a short time and are willing to assume some risk. (bull may be infertile or injured) That same bull might just have gotten to the point that the producer has kept a lot of his daughters and is unwilling to linebreed any further so he is sold. Whatever the case may be you should be honest with yourself and the other producers and expect to get paid for the type of animals you are presenting for sale. There is nothing wrong with someone using the young Hereford bull to breed a few cows and try to make a profit, in fact I applaud Calhoun Farm for attempting to do that, and I agree with most of the people on here that you will make money on the cows and the bull when you sell them. I would just ask that you are honest with the buyers when you sell them. If you are trying to build your own herd then being honest now will likely make an impression on the buyers that are present and you will have repeat customers in years to come just on honesty alone. Then its up to you to produce cattle that meet the needs of the buyer. Just for the record whoever produced that Hereford bull has either lost his knife or his banders and someone needs to buy him another one. He would be better off in a feedlot than as a bull. [/QUOTE]
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