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Hereford/ Black simmentals vs. Hereford/ Black angus
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<blockquote data-quote="Brandonm22" data-source="post: 841193" data-attributes="member: 7645"><p>I don't want to be the board crank (if I can honestly avoid it). A lot of effort has been made in recent years to prevent some of the possible abuses from the past from occurring in the present. DNA parentage tests for AI sires has become standard throughout the industry and the genetic testing for defects we have today are unprecedented. Now as for investigating stuff that happened 30-40 years ago, that is dangerous territory for any breed association to go. One could argue that any registration paper issued, even those involving a theoretically "tainted" bloodline, is a contract between the association and the purchaser of the animal that carries that regn paper. The papers SAY the animal is a Hereford, a Angus, a Simmental, a Quarter Horse, etc. and that that animal bred to another animal in that registry can produce registerable offspring. If an association then went back and purged that bloodline from it's registry for something the current owner had no part in or knowledge of, would that not be breach of contract??? If I owned a 100 registered cows and they all lost their registered status like that.......I think I would have to sue. Once you brought such a suit in the depositions you would ask all of the current and former breed officers and field men what did they know and how long have they known it and why did they issue me a registration paper without informing me that there was a possibility however small, that the registration paper was not accurate, and was that act not fraud?. I don't think any breed association REALLY wants to ever put themselves in that situation. If the American Hereford Association says that a bull with the diluter gene IS a registered Hereford, then it is a registered Hereford according to their rules. Likewise if the American Simmental Association declares that a solid black, polled, frame four bull possesses all of the characteristics and credentials to be a registered Simmental THEN he is a registered Simmental. I really don't have any problem with this. It is their registry they make the rules.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brandonm22, post: 841193, member: 7645"] I don't want to be the board crank (if I can honestly avoid it). A lot of effort has been made in recent years to prevent some of the possible abuses from the past from occurring in the present. DNA parentage tests for AI sires has become standard throughout the industry and the genetic testing for defects we have today are unprecedented. Now as for investigating stuff that happened 30-40 years ago, that is dangerous territory for any breed association to go. One could argue that any registration paper issued, even those involving a theoretically "tainted" bloodline, is a contract between the association and the purchaser of the animal that carries that regn paper. The papers SAY the animal is a Hereford, a Angus, a Simmental, a Quarter Horse, etc. and that that animal bred to another animal in that registry can produce registerable offspring. If an association then went back and purged that bloodline from it's registry for something the current owner had no part in or knowledge of, would that not be breach of contract??? If I owned a 100 registered cows and they all lost their registered status like that.......I think I would have to sue. Once you brought such a suit in the depositions you would ask all of the current and former breed officers and field men what did they know and how long have they known it and why did they issue me a registration paper without informing me that there was a possibility however small, that the registration paper was not accurate, and was that act not fraud?. I don't think any breed association REALLY wants to ever put themselves in that situation. If the American Hereford Association says that a bull with the diluter gene IS a registered Hereford, then it is a registered Hereford according to their rules. Likewise if the American Simmental Association declares that a solid black, polled, frame four bull possesses all of the characteristics and credentials to be a registered Simmental THEN he is a registered Simmental. I really don't have any problem with this. It is their registry they make the rules. [/QUOTE]
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