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Hereford/ Black simmentals vs. Hereford/ Black angus
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<blockquote data-quote="Brandonm22" data-source="post: 841066" data-attributes="member: 7645"><p>Fraud?? What fraud??? Most Simmies in America were produced by breeding American cows (usually Hereford) to imported Simmental bulls or semen. Those progeny were bred up to registered Simmental status. When Simmental needed to go black they sought out Simmentals that had been bred up from Angus herds and crossed the them to the existing white faced red/yellow Simmental cow herd selecting for the black hide. None of that is even secret. Do you think that the Simmental breeders are going to give up that black hide.....and the resulting easier keeping females and improved marbling they got from the Angus??? Angus MAY have utitlized Holstein and Chianina to get more frame and growth. There is no way to undo that (if you could prove it) and I don't think Angus wants to give up that world class post weaning growth rate. Ditto with Hereford and their "alleged" relationship with the original Simmentals. IF it happened, and I can't prove it (and darn sure wouldn't want to) do you really think that the American Hereford Association wants to do anything that would result in less registration fees being mailed in next year???</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brandonm22, post: 841066, member: 7645"] Fraud?? What fraud??? Most Simmies in America were produced by breeding American cows (usually Hereford) to imported Simmental bulls or semen. Those progeny were bred up to registered Simmental status. When Simmental needed to go black they sought out Simmentals that had been bred up from Angus herds and crossed the them to the existing white faced red/yellow Simmental cow herd selecting for the black hide. None of that is even secret. Do you think that the Simmental breeders are going to give up that black hide.....and the resulting easier keeping females and improved marbling they got from the Angus??? Angus MAY have utitlized Holstein and Chianina to get more frame and growth. There is no way to undo that (if you could prove it) and I don't think Angus wants to give up that world class post weaning growth rate. Ditto with Hereford and their "alleged" relationship with the original Simmentals. IF it happened, and I can't prove it (and darn sure wouldn't want to) do you really think that the American Hereford Association wants to do anything that would result in less registration fees being mailed in next year??? [/QUOTE]
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