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<blockquote data-quote="backhoeboogie" data-source="post: 750551" data-attributes="member: 3162"><p>My operation is commercial. Flies are a real issue here. 7 other herds adjoin my pastures and it would help if everyone treated at the same time but that will never happen. Twice a year worming and periodical spraying with permethrin seems to do the most good for me. Ear tags help and I have tried the rubs. Minerals with Rabon are good. </p><p></p><p>I don't creep feed. Don't ever intend to. Cows on grass had best do the job or else the cows will be changed. You noted the expense of range cubes. I view creep as the same scenario. You're money ahead putting the investments into pasture. My opinion for my climate. </p><p></p><p>I don't vaccinate exclusively for pink eye but keep a close watch. LA200 works and pink eye is about the only thing I use LA200 for. I might get a case of pink eye about once every 5 years and get on it quick when I notice. They get 3 cc oof pen in the eye lid (I hear that is old school now) and LA200 per directives on the bottle, isolation in another pasture. </p><p></p><p>Calves get all vaccinations and booster follow ups. </p><p></p><p>The pasture rotation is regular and it is a mob grazing situation for me. The smallest pasture is 33 acres and they can take it down in a week at the peak of growing season. I believe parasite control is best when you take them all off of the pasture in the rotation. For the most part I am rotating through 4 pastures with 3 others reserved exclusively for hay production. The longest they are ever on one pasture is a month. I'll take them off of that one and cut hay at least once a year on it for my own use unless we have a drought situation. </p><p></p><p>My herd is currently young as I culled heavy during the drought. As a rule of thumb, when I start noticing lighter calves out of a cow I'll check her teeth. She may be good for a couple of more calves but I'll cull her at that point. Age has nothing to do with the ability to raise a good calf. It is all in the teeth in my opinion. </p><p></p><p>Loose minerals absolutely. Makes no sense to have nice stock trailers, 4 wheelers, high dollar equipment and then skimp on minerals and forage. Healthy cows reproduce a calf at about 10 1/2 to 11 months for me regularly with no issues. I keep tight birth records and watch closely. </p><p></p><p>My goals are to get to 150 market calves a year and keeping overhead less than $30K. I am not a full time cattle man. Get some income from hay sales to offset fertilizer expenses.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="backhoeboogie, post: 750551, member: 3162"] My operation is commercial. Flies are a real issue here. 7 other herds adjoin my pastures and it would help if everyone treated at the same time but that will never happen. Twice a year worming and periodical spraying with permethrin seems to do the most good for me. Ear tags help and I have tried the rubs. Minerals with Rabon are good. I don't creep feed. Don't ever intend to. Cows on grass had best do the job or else the cows will be changed. You noted the expense of range cubes. I view creep as the same scenario. You're money ahead putting the investments into pasture. My opinion for my climate. I don't vaccinate exclusively for pink eye but keep a close watch. LA200 works and pink eye is about the only thing I use LA200 for. I might get a case of pink eye about once every 5 years and get on it quick when I notice. They get 3 cc oof pen in the eye lid (I hear that is old school now) and LA200 per directives on the bottle, isolation in another pasture. Calves get all vaccinations and booster follow ups. The pasture rotation is regular and it is a mob grazing situation for me. The smallest pasture is 33 acres and they can take it down in a week at the peak of growing season. I believe parasite control is best when you take them all off of the pasture in the rotation. For the most part I am rotating through 4 pastures with 3 others reserved exclusively for hay production. The longest they are ever on one pasture is a month. I'll take them off of that one and cut hay at least once a year on it for my own use unless we have a drought situation. My herd is currently young as I culled heavy during the drought. As a rule of thumb, when I start noticing lighter calves out of a cow I'll check her teeth. She may be good for a couple of more calves but I'll cull her at that point. Age has nothing to do with the ability to raise a good calf. It is all in the teeth in my opinion. Loose minerals absolutely. Makes no sense to have nice stock trailers, 4 wheelers, high dollar equipment and then skimp on minerals and forage. Healthy cows reproduce a calf at about 10 1/2 to 11 months for me regularly with no issues. I keep tight birth records and watch closely. My goals are to get to 150 market calves a year and keeping overhead less than $30K. I am not a full time cattle man. Get some income from hay sales to offset fertilizer expenses. [/QUOTE]
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