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<blockquote data-quote="50/50Farms" data-source="post: 1795657" data-attributes="member: 42731"><p>Unnecessary considering that the average 9mm JHP load actually out-competes M193 5.56mm ball ammo in drywall and stick frame penetration. And that puts me in mind of something. </p><p></p><p>I'm going to hop on a soap box here and probably catch lots of hate since all rural people are into guns and have an opinion but if qualifications matter I spent 8 years of my life teaching on rifles, carbines, handguns, grenade launchers and belt fed weapons and combative shooting in addition to working for a gun range at one point and also running a side thing where I teach firearms, defense and safety to regular joes. </p><p></p><p>There is nothing you can shoot in a house with a fully reliable one shot stop rating that won't penetrate drywall and stick frame housing. The more important thing to know is where you shouldn't shoot unless direly necessary in a house. For instance, I have the spaces where my girls' beds are outlined on the walls outside of their rooms at all sides. That's a shot only to be taken if it's life or death here and now. And as such, I use appropriate loads for damage mitigation, but over penetration is always a factor. It's one of the four main rules of firearm safety, knowing your target and what's beyond it. Better than any plans to use a pet load to try and skirt physics or trying to shoot through walls LVR style is having a home defense plan that everyone in the house knows and knows their role in. Don't hunt people in your house if you don't have to. It's your house, you know where everything is. Have someone on the phone with 911 while you cover the most critical point with consideration of background. The best way to win a gunfight is to keep one from happening, the second best is to shoot thoracic cavity or center of mass with the best gun you can bring. If you keep a rifle with an optic for home defense, practice close range HOB shooting, it matters. Have fun and be safe, y'all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="50/50Farms, post: 1795657, member: 42731"] Unnecessary considering that the average 9mm JHP load actually out-competes M193 5.56mm ball ammo in drywall and stick frame penetration. And that puts me in mind of something. I'm going to hop on a soap box here and probably catch lots of hate since all rural people are into guns and have an opinion but if qualifications matter I spent 8 years of my life teaching on rifles, carbines, handguns, grenade launchers and belt fed weapons and combative shooting in addition to working for a gun range at one point and also running a side thing where I teach firearms, defense and safety to regular joes. There is nothing you can shoot in a house with a fully reliable one shot stop rating that won't penetrate drywall and stick frame housing. The more important thing to know is where you shouldn't shoot unless direly necessary in a house. For instance, I have the spaces where my girls' beds are outlined on the walls outside of their rooms at all sides. That's a shot only to be taken if it's life or death here and now. And as such, I use appropriate loads for damage mitigation, but over penetration is always a factor. It's one of the four main rules of firearm safety, knowing your target and what's beyond it. Better than any plans to use a pet load to try and skirt physics or trying to shoot through walls LVR style is having a home defense plan that everyone in the house knows and knows their role in. Don't hunt people in your house if you don't have to. It's your house, you know where everything is. Have someone on the phone with 911 while you cover the most critical point with consideration of background. The best way to win a gunfight is to keep one from happening, the second best is to shoot thoracic cavity or center of mass with the best gun you can bring. If you keep a rifle with an optic for home defense, practice close range HOB shooting, it matters. Have fun and be safe, y'all. [/QUOTE]
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