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<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 2418"><p>yes I am a as you call Average Joe Blow, as fas a conditioning goes my calves were 150 pounds at 3 months old when I bought them, body score 3, they are now almost 6 months old 460 pounds and body score of 7, I feed commercial dairy mix, top quality hay( have left over from horses) the ADG is 3.4 pounds each, I feed 18 pounds grain ration between the 2 thats around 2% BW in grain and they really dont eat alot of hay but they eat it,cattle farmers out here said I am doing a fine job not to change a thing they are growing just as good as others..so I guess being an avererage joe isnt so bad..</p><p>> I ate a lot of farm raised &</p><p>> fed-out Jersey meat (as well as</p><p>> Holstein, Hereford and Brahma</p><p>> crossed cattle also) growing up in</p><p>> a blue collar family of rather</p><p>> humble means. But I think the key</p><p>> issue here is essentially</p><p>> something you wrote, to wit:</p><p>> "when properly</p><p>> conditioned" or when properly</p><p>> fed-out, etc., etc. I love</p><p>> Jerseys, especially for nurse</p><p>> cows, but IMHO generally speaking</p><p>> Jerseys (or Holsteins) don't</p><p>> finish out nearly as soon or as</p><p>> well in the "hands" of a</p><p>> person lacking the requisite</p><p>> experience or base of knowledge to</p><p>> get consistently satisfactory</p><p>> results from Jerseys. One of my</p><p>> retired uncles usually has 5 or 6</p><p>> steers on feed all during the year</p><p>> and it's usually several Jerseys</p><p>> and/or Holsteins, a Hereford or</p><p>> two and 1 or 2 other</p><p>> "beef" breeds. In his</p><p>> simplified system they all get the</p><p>> same ration and the dairy calves</p><p>> ALWAYS finish slower and more</p><p>> poorly. Granted, if he were to</p><p>> "fine tune" the feeding</p><p>> of the dairy breed calves his</p><p>> results might be different. Over</p><p>> the years he has determined that</p><p>> grinding into hamburger is the way</p><p>> to go with his dairy calves. I'm</p><p>> not saying that's the way it</p><p>> always has to turn out, but I do</p><p>> believe that in the hands of the</p><p>> AVERAGE Joe Blow (or Arnold or</p><p>> Yvette) it's simply easier &</p><p>> quicker to get good results if you</p><p>> start with a good British beef</p><p>> breed. To each his own.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> <a href="mailto:yvette1@sprint.ca">yvette1@sprint.ca</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 2418"] yes I am a as you call Average Joe Blow, as fas a conditioning goes my calves were 150 pounds at 3 months old when I bought them, body score 3, they are now almost 6 months old 460 pounds and body score of 7, I feed commercial dairy mix, top quality hay( have left over from horses) the ADG is 3.4 pounds each, I feed 18 pounds grain ration between the 2 thats around 2% BW in grain and they really dont eat alot of hay but they eat it,cattle farmers out here said I am doing a fine job not to change a thing they are growing just as good as others..so I guess being an avererage joe isnt so bad.. > I ate a lot of farm raised & > fed-out Jersey meat (as well as > Holstein, Hereford and Brahma > crossed cattle also) growing up in > a blue collar family of rather > humble means. But I think the key > issue here is essentially > something you wrote, to wit: > "when properly > conditioned" or when properly > fed-out, etc., etc. I love > Jerseys, especially for nurse > cows, but IMHO generally speaking > Jerseys (or Holsteins) don't > finish out nearly as soon or as > well in the "hands" of a > person lacking the requisite > experience or base of knowledge to > get consistently satisfactory > results from Jerseys. One of my > retired uncles usually has 5 or 6 > steers on feed all during the year > and it's usually several Jerseys > and/or Holsteins, a Hereford or > two and 1 or 2 other > "beef" breeds. In his > simplified system they all get the > same ration and the dairy calves > ALWAYS finish slower and more > poorly. Granted, if he were to > "fine tune" the feeding > of the dairy breed calves his > results might be different. Over > the years he has determined that > grinding into hamburger is the way > to go with his dairy calves. I'm > not saying that's the way it > always has to turn out, but I do > believe that in the hands of the > AVERAGE Joe Blow (or Arnold or > Yvette) it's simply easier & > quicker to get good results if you > start with a good British beef > breed. To each his own. [email=yvette1@sprint.ca]yvette1@sprint.ca[/email] [/QUOTE]
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