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<blockquote data-quote="pdfangus" data-source="post: 768786" data-attributes="member: 6543"><p>I am concerned over how easily the thread about wormers morphed into a thread about fly control.</p><p></p><p>they are two seperate issues and should be dealt with spearately.</p><p></p><p>pour on wormers do have some inital fly control benefits but that is not what they are for. I would think pure economics would sort that out. None of these wormers are cheap.</p><p></p><p>If my cows had to rely on me putting them thru the alley every so often to pour on fly control then the dang flys could tote em away. </p><p></p><p>I have adopted the IGR mineral this year because my new neighbor uses it. so far i am happy with it and do feel that it is doing a good bit of good. I am even putting it in the horse feed and they have less flies as well. We generally have short and mild winters with the last one being the exception that proves the rule. So I intend to keep my critters on the IGR mineral year round to avoid having seed manure to let flies get started in the spring. we can have a warm day in January and flies will appear by magic.</p><p></p><p>I have always put an ounce of mineral in the daily horse ration so the only chenge was in the mineral used.</p><p></p><p>My only other fly control has been back rubbers charged weekly and located where the animals will use them. My bull calves sleep under the one in their shade. this is because My biggest fly nuisance is the large biting flies like the green head and the b52 horse fly. not much seems to deter them other than mashing. The diesel fuel rubbers with some fly stuff in them give them a little protection.</p><p></p><p>As Texasbred says rotating the product used is the most important part of worm control. Use anything steadily and biology will develop a resistance to it.</p><p></p><p>Same thing is beginning to happen to LA200 and its peers. peopel use it for everything from bovine athletes foot to altzimers and biology is beginning to become reisistant. Same as humans going to the doctor for antibiotic for cold and flu. antibiotics don't phase viruses and the bacteria get stronger by exposure to the antibiotics. </p><p></p><p>I dread the day when cydectin effectiveness starts to fail because there have been no new ones since it came out.</p><p></p><p>Ivomec and cydectin and Dectomax are the ones I use in rotation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pdfangus, post: 768786, member: 6543"] I am concerned over how easily the thread about wormers morphed into a thread about fly control. they are two seperate issues and should be dealt with spearately. pour on wormers do have some inital fly control benefits but that is not what they are for. I would think pure economics would sort that out. None of these wormers are cheap. If my cows had to rely on me putting them thru the alley every so often to pour on fly control then the dang flys could tote em away. I have adopted the IGR mineral this year because my new neighbor uses it. so far i am happy with it and do feel that it is doing a good bit of good. I am even putting it in the horse feed and they have less flies as well. We generally have short and mild winters with the last one being the exception that proves the rule. So I intend to keep my critters on the IGR mineral year round to avoid having seed manure to let flies get started in the spring. we can have a warm day in January and flies will appear by magic. I have always put an ounce of mineral in the daily horse ration so the only chenge was in the mineral used. My only other fly control has been back rubbers charged weekly and located where the animals will use them. My bull calves sleep under the one in their shade. this is because My biggest fly nuisance is the large biting flies like the green head and the b52 horse fly. not much seems to deter them other than mashing. The diesel fuel rubbers with some fly stuff in them give them a little protection. As Texasbred says rotating the product used is the most important part of worm control. Use anything steadily and biology will develop a resistance to it. Same thing is beginning to happen to LA200 and its peers. peopel use it for everything from bovine athletes foot to altzimers and biology is beginning to become reisistant. Same as humans going to the doctor for antibiotic for cold and flu. antibiotics don't phase viruses and the bacteria get stronger by exposure to the antibiotics. I dread the day when cydectin effectiveness starts to fail because there have been no new ones since it came out. Ivomec and cydectin and Dectomax are the ones I use in rotation. [/QUOTE]
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