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<blockquote data-quote="gman4691" data-source="post: 1796911" data-attributes="member: 43107"><p>Good call on the MSMA...appreciate that. I read the label but it's been quite some time. Either didn't catch it or it just didn't stick in the memory portion of my little peanut brain - ha! Read up on Outrider this AM...will be exchanging the MSMA for Outrider this afternoon. Haven't applied anything yet - still too early...just getting stocked up for later this spring. I do find it odd that so many are using MSMA given the label directions. I think I might remember speaking to one person who mentioned Outrider but the most, by far, say they use MSMA to kill johnson grass in hay meadows. I very much appreciate your bringing this up. I'll try the Outrider this year and if it gives good results I'll let some of the folks around here know...using the MSMA could result in someone getting dinged if their pesticide applicator's license gets audited.</p><p></p><p>Here's a nice little nerdy geology factoid: The soils in this area (east Texas red dirt) have total arsenic concentrations that can appear alarming at first glance. The soils are derived from the Eocene Weches Formation. The unweathered portion is grayish-green but weathers to a kind of rust red color due to the iron content. The total arsenic levels increase the closer you get to the unweathered portion (used to work as a hydrogeologist in environmental consulting - we sampled tons of this stuff from the surface down to about 20-30 feet). However, the arsenic occurs as trace amounts of arsenopyrite (like iron pyrite - fool's gold - but with arsenic instead of iron). When tested for leaching potential, it is virtually absent owing to the fact that it is very insoluble - much to the relief of our clients. You could eat your body weight in the red dirt and the arsenic wouldn't have any effect - it would just pass right through. The biggest problem you would have would be that you ate your body weight in dirt...and eating one's body weight in dirt or anything else is not recommended...ha!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gman4691, post: 1796911, member: 43107"] Good call on the MSMA...appreciate that. I read the label but it's been quite some time. Either didn't catch it or it just didn't stick in the memory portion of my little peanut brain - ha! Read up on Outrider this AM...will be exchanging the MSMA for Outrider this afternoon. Haven't applied anything yet - still too early...just getting stocked up for later this spring. I do find it odd that so many are using MSMA given the label directions. I think I might remember speaking to one person who mentioned Outrider but the most, by far, say they use MSMA to kill johnson grass in hay meadows. I very much appreciate your bringing this up. I'll try the Outrider this year and if it gives good results I'll let some of the folks around here know...using the MSMA could result in someone getting dinged if their pesticide applicator's license gets audited. Here's a nice little nerdy geology factoid: The soils in this area (east Texas red dirt) have total arsenic concentrations that can appear alarming at first glance. The soils are derived from the Eocene Weches Formation. The unweathered portion is grayish-green but weathers to a kind of rust red color due to the iron content. The total arsenic levels increase the closer you get to the unweathered portion (used to work as a hydrogeologist in environmental consulting - we sampled tons of this stuff from the surface down to about 20-30 feet). However, the arsenic occurs as trace amounts of arsenopyrite (like iron pyrite - fool's gold - but with arsenic instead of iron). When tested for leaching potential, it is virtually absent owing to the fact that it is very insoluble - much to the relief of our clients. You could eat your body weight in the red dirt and the arsenic wouldn't have any effect - it would just pass right through. The biggest problem you would have would be that you ate your body weight in dirt...and eating one's body weight in dirt or anything else is not recommended...ha! [/QUOTE]
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