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<blockquote data-quote="faster horses" data-source="post: 1757608" data-attributes="member: 17524"><p>Here is how I know. We had copper deficiency in our cows. We were in an area where there was high sulfates in the water, but we didn't know that til years later. Our herd health suffered because of it. We even moved our ranching operation across the state, because no one back then, had any idea why our calves got so sick. For 8 years. After getting on Vigortone mineral (that's why I am so passionate about feeding mineral) the area manager used our cattle for before and after pictures. Honestly, we were ready to quit. Then we found out it was copper deficiency from him. We had tried universities, feed dealers, veterinarians, eveyone and no one knew til he looked at our cattle in 1994. This sickness started in early 1985 and it wasn't until 1994 that we were able to identify and fix the problem. It was smooth sailing with our cattle/herd health from then on. Oh yeah, we gave all the vaccines, but without a good immune system the vaccines aren't effective. We lived it for 8 years, so we know about copper deficiency and how it marks brown on their wither. It's pretty easy to identify once you know to look for it.</p><p></p><p>Here is a bit on it. <a href="https://www.producer.com/livestock/copper-deficiency-a-problem-when-sulfates-are-high/" target="_blank">https://www.producer.com/livestock/copper-deficiency-a-problem-when-sulfates-are-high/</a></p><p></p><p>"Lower levels of sulfates in the water or diet can cause less obvious problems in cattle. Sulfates bind with copper and other trace minerals in the rumen, making them unavailable for absorption. The effect on copper becomes even more significant if molybdenum levels are high in the diet because molybdenum can also tie up copper absorption. Higher levels of sulfates are common in water in many areas of the Prairies and if distillers grains are used as part of a finishing diet, they can also raise the sulfate levels in the rumen. Copper deficiency may be a significant subclinical risk in these situations.</p><p></p><p>Copper deficiency in cattle has been associated with a wide range of problems including poor growth, loss in milk production, changes in hair colour, and anemia (low levels of red blood cells). Copper may also play a role in the immune response and cattle that are copper deficient may be more prone to infectious diseases."</p><p></p><p>I'm always happy to help because of what we went through. I would not want anyone to have to experience that. Now more is known about copper deficiency than almost 40 years ago. That is such a good thing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="faster horses, post: 1757608, member: 17524"] Here is how I know. We had copper deficiency in our cows. We were in an area where there was high sulfates in the water, but we didn't know that til years later. Our herd health suffered because of it. We even moved our ranching operation across the state, because no one back then, had any idea why our calves got so sick. For 8 years. After getting on Vigortone mineral (that's why I am so passionate about feeding mineral) the area manager used our cattle for before and after pictures. Honestly, we were ready to quit. Then we found out it was copper deficiency from him. We had tried universities, feed dealers, veterinarians, eveyone and no one knew til he looked at our cattle in 1994. This sickness started in early 1985 and it wasn't until 1994 that we were able to identify and fix the problem. It was smooth sailing with our cattle/herd health from then on. Oh yeah, we gave all the vaccines, but without a good immune system the vaccines aren't effective. We lived it for 8 years, so we know about copper deficiency and how it marks brown on their wither. It's pretty easy to identify once you know to look for it. Here is a bit on it. [URL]https://www.producer.com/livestock/copper-deficiency-a-problem-when-sulfates-are-high/[/URL] "Lower levels of sulfates in the water or diet can cause less obvious problems in cattle. Sulfates bind with copper and other trace minerals in the rumen, making them unavailable for absorption. The effect on copper becomes even more significant if molybdenum levels are high in the diet because molybdenum can also tie up copper absorption. Higher levels of sulfates are common in water in many areas of the Prairies and if distillers grains are used as part of a finishing diet, they can also raise the sulfate levels in the rumen. Copper deficiency may be a significant subclinical risk in these situations. Copper deficiency in cattle has been associated with a wide range of problems including poor growth, loss in milk production, changes in hair colour, and anemia (low levels of red blood cells). Copper may also play a role in the immune response and cattle that are copper deficient may be more prone to infectious diseases." I'm always happy to help because of what we went through. I would not want anyone to have to experience that. Now more is known about copper deficiency than almost 40 years ago. That is such a good thing. [/QUOTE]
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