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<blockquote data-quote="Bright Raven" data-source="post: 1549579" data-attributes="member: 27490"><p>Here are the 2 substantive points in your last post above. I omitted the critique of the picture of one of his cows, the comment on multiple AI attempts and wishing Branded's continued success. Which leaves two good points.</p><p></p><p>1. "Pounds never trump function in the best of cattle or in a sound breeding program". </p><p></p><p>2. "Nobody has ever strongly proven that the constant increase of weaning weights can avoid the law of diminishing returns. To know the environmental limits and seek economical ways to up those limits in an average year is the efforts of a thinking commercial producer. That partly ties to the environmental fit of the cow based on mature weights, ability to function on the forages and feed that are economical and such".</p><p></p><p>Those are points I doubt anyone here would disagree with, I sure don't. Are you implying that James has ignored those points in his program? I have read all his posts and I did not reach that conclusion. I did not get the impression that he is sacrificing function for weaning weight. He mentioned good udders, feet, fertility, etc. He seems to me to be wanting to meet the needs of his market - which demands pedigrees that produce pounds. I just want clarity because you are painting what some might think is an ugly picture of his operation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bright Raven, post: 1549579, member: 27490"] Here are the 2 substantive points in your last post above. I omitted the critique of the picture of one of his cows, the comment on multiple AI attempts and wishing Branded's continued success. Which leaves two good points. 1. "Pounds never trump function in the best of cattle or in a sound breeding program". 2. "Nobody has ever strongly proven that the constant increase of weaning weights can avoid the law of diminishing returns. To know the environmental limits and seek economical ways to up those limits in an average year is the efforts of a thinking commercial producer. That partly ties to the environmental fit of the cow based on mature weights, ability to function on the forages and feed that are economical and such". Those are points I doubt anyone here would disagree with, I sure don't. Are you implying that James has ignored those points in his program? I have read all his posts and I did not reach that conclusion. I did not get the impression that he is sacrificing function for weaning weight. He mentioned good udders, feet, fertility, etc. He seems to me to be wanting to meet the needs of his market - which demands pedigrees that produce pounds. I just want clarity because you are painting what some might think is an ugly picture of his operation. [/QUOTE]
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