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<blockquote data-quote="Lucky_P" data-source="post: 1171267" data-attributes="member: 12607"><p>Ron, </p><p>There are some that you'd think would fit that 'lead-pipe cinch' category; LCC Above & Beyond (Red Angus) and N Bar Prime Time D806 (AN) are two that come to mind. But, think back to that old 'bell curve' diagram. There are gonna be outliers.</p><p> </p><p>I've got a bit of experience with D806 - the calves come very small - like drowned rabbits - and jump up and nurse quickly. They'll also run a mile away, crossing fence after fence, if you spook them in the first day or two of life. And, there's not much 'grow' to them - but they get here alive. Daughters actually make decent cows by the time they get to be 5-6-7 years old- if you can stand to look at 'em in the interim. But, I know someone who had a bunch of Cherokee Canyon daughters bred to D806 who had to pull almost all of them - CC is noted for siring cows with the pelvic area of a hamster. Even with an extreme, proven calving ease bull, there were problems.</p><p>I've had one heifer, in the past, bred to D806, that couldn't have her measly little calf without assistance, so, even if you're using those high CED bulls with high accuracies, sometimes Nature will surprise you with something you hadn't counted on.</p><p></p><p>All you can do is try to make the best decision you can, based on the best information you have at hand. But sometimes you don't have ALL the info...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lucky_P, post: 1171267, member: 12607"] Ron, There are some that you'd think would fit that 'lead-pipe cinch' category; LCC Above & Beyond (Red Angus) and N Bar Prime Time D806 (AN) are two that come to mind. But, think back to that old 'bell curve' diagram. There are gonna be outliers. I've got a bit of experience with D806 - the calves come very small - like drowned rabbits - and jump up and nurse quickly. They'll also run a mile away, crossing fence after fence, if you spook them in the first day or two of life. And, there's not much 'grow' to them - but they get here alive. Daughters actually make decent cows by the time they get to be 5-6-7 years old- if you can stand to look at 'em in the interim. But, I know someone who had a bunch of Cherokee Canyon daughters bred to D806 who had to pull almost all of them - CC is noted for siring cows with the pelvic area of a hamster. Even with an extreme, proven calving ease bull, there were problems. I've had one heifer, in the past, bred to D806, that couldn't have her measly little calf without assistance, so, even if you're using those high CED bulls with high accuracies, sometimes Nature will surprise you with something you hadn't counted on. All you can do is try to make the best decision you can, based on the best information you have at hand. But sometimes you don't have ALL the info... [/QUOTE]
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