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<blockquote data-quote="Ozhorse" data-source="post: 1158693" data-attributes="member: 18575"><p>Nesikep, I dont envy you so far from the abatoir. I am always grateful that we do have a local plant only 70 km away as if we have a lame bull or cow we can take it straight in to them. We are not allowed to sell lame animals at the sale yards and otherwise we would just have to leave them in the paddock. NZ I think is getting as bad as Australia, and also it seems Canada, so yes, commonwealth countries have been too politically correct. </p><p></p><p>Re; animal identification scheme (NLIS) it is a pain and an expense. I resent that the scheme is not useful for farmers to track ownership, it is not designed for that becuase it is a scheme for the beauracrats. It is too difficult for small (I mean only 100 cows or so) producers to use themselves unless they are particularly computer savvy or like spending money on ear tag readers. If their cattle go somewhere on agistment who cant comply then traceability is lost as it is the responsibility of the property owner where the cattle go to comply. If they wont comply you cant make them so your cattle are in the wrong place on the scheme. Every tag you buy is logged as yours, so all the old tags sitting in the cupboard are on the database as animals, as are all the ear tags that the cattle pull off, which is lots, or all the ones I accidentally mess up, or leave somewhere. These animal records will accumulate over the years until I think one day it wont work well any more. They make us put plastic tags in the sheep. This is not too bad. They are talking about electronic tags for every sheep. That is insane. Sheep are not infrequently worth less than the tags. The numbers of sheep are enormous compared to cattle and would add ridiculous time costs to read tags at the sale yards. I guess that is a government employees paradise.</p><p></p><p>I am mad at our (compulsory levy funded) sheep industy body having dealings with PETA and trying to compromise and appease them on the subject of mulsing. There is NO compromise with bodies like PETA who have a policy of humans not using animals at all - cant compromise with a group that will not compromise themselves. If we let them win on something like mulsing the next thing will be castration, tailing and shearing (they started on that on the ABC recently). Then we cant run animals, which is their goal.</p><p></p><p>What I said about abatoirs and cattle and sheep, ditto for horses. I have show horses and use them on the farm and have had them all my life and I would say they are my lifes passion, appart from the farm. Nothing like a nice small local horse abatoir for humane, quick and convienient euthenasia of a sick or rank horse. The suffering of shipping horses to Mexico in cattle trucks as an alternative is horrifying. </p><p></p><p>Pray for an early spring and good rain for me, my cattle are doing it tough just now and when they dont feel good, I dont feel good and spring seems a long time away.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ozhorse, post: 1158693, member: 18575"] Nesikep, I dont envy you so far from the abatoir. I am always grateful that we do have a local plant only 70 km away as if we have a lame bull or cow we can take it straight in to them. We are not allowed to sell lame animals at the sale yards and otherwise we would just have to leave them in the paddock. NZ I think is getting as bad as Australia, and also it seems Canada, so yes, commonwealth countries have been too politically correct. Re; animal identification scheme (NLIS) it is a pain and an expense. I resent that the scheme is not useful for farmers to track ownership, it is not designed for that becuase it is a scheme for the beauracrats. It is too difficult for small (I mean only 100 cows or so) producers to use themselves unless they are particularly computer savvy or like spending money on ear tag readers. If their cattle go somewhere on agistment who cant comply then traceability is lost as it is the responsibility of the property owner where the cattle go to comply. If they wont comply you cant make them so your cattle are in the wrong place on the scheme. Every tag you buy is logged as yours, so all the old tags sitting in the cupboard are on the database as animals, as are all the ear tags that the cattle pull off, which is lots, or all the ones I accidentally mess up, or leave somewhere. These animal records will accumulate over the years until I think one day it wont work well any more. They make us put plastic tags in the sheep. This is not too bad. They are talking about electronic tags for every sheep. That is insane. Sheep are not infrequently worth less than the tags. The numbers of sheep are enormous compared to cattle and would add ridiculous time costs to read tags at the sale yards. I guess that is a government employees paradise. I am mad at our (compulsory levy funded) sheep industy body having dealings with PETA and trying to compromise and appease them on the subject of mulsing. There is NO compromise with bodies like PETA who have a policy of humans not using animals at all - cant compromise with a group that will not compromise themselves. If we let them win on something like mulsing the next thing will be castration, tailing and shearing (they started on that on the ABC recently). Then we cant run animals, which is their goal. What I said about abatoirs and cattle and sheep, ditto for horses. I have show horses and use them on the farm and have had them all my life and I would say they are my lifes passion, appart from the farm. Nothing like a nice small local horse abatoir for humane, quick and convienient euthenasia of a sick or rank horse. The suffering of shipping horses to Mexico in cattle trucks as an alternative is horrifying. Pray for an early spring and good rain for me, my cattle are doing it tough just now and when they dont feel good, I dont feel good and spring seems a long time away. [/QUOTE]
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