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<blockquote data-quote="AngusLimoX" data-source="post: 313836" data-attributes="member: 3319"><p>Gotta disagree with the above.</p><p></p><p>When I first took my .300 win mag into deer camp the boys asked what the heck I needed the elephant gun for. I looked at a guy who uses a 30-30 and told him his rifle fired bigger rounds than mine. Had to get a cartridge box out and show him his bullets weighed 174 grains, and mine 150.</p><p></p><p>So the next hour or so was spent explaining the advantages of my 150 grain projectile going 3200fps over his going 2300fps. Near the end of our talk my speach was pretty slurred and I was having difficulty with numbers so I gave up. ( Something about the first night in deer camp :lol: ). The .300 got called the elephant gun from then on.</p><p></p><p>But the deer never knew it was an elephant gun, there was no inordinate destruction of meat, and never more than one round was fired at over 23 deer in this camp. Some kills were over 400yds, most over 200. They put me in spots they never put anyone before because they realized those types of shots were reasonable for that rifle.( I am not bragging marksmanship here, the weapon and scope made it pretty easy to shoot standing/walking deer that have no clue you are out there ). </p><p></p><p>As a brush buster - I'd put the .300 up against just about anything else, especially with a 190 - 220 grain spire point. Ballistic stability and energy in spades.</p><p></p><p>Do I recommend a calibre like this to a child or novice - nope, especially if you are going to heavier bullets and hot loads. ( Although, if you were a reloader, you could start them out with some pretty tame but effective loads ). I would never recommend less than 100 grains for deer, and always in a large game designed bullet.</p><p></p><p>It isn't that mine is bigger, ( although it is :lol: ), it is that mine is more effective, more versatile, and humane.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AngusLimoX, post: 313836, member: 3319"] Gotta disagree with the above. When I first took my .300 win mag into deer camp the boys asked what the heck I needed the elephant gun for. I looked at a guy who uses a 30-30 and told him his rifle fired bigger rounds than mine. Had to get a cartridge box out and show him his bullets weighed 174 grains, and mine 150. So the next hour or so was spent explaining the advantages of my 150 grain projectile going 3200fps over his going 2300fps. Near the end of our talk my speach was pretty slurred and I was having difficulty with numbers so I gave up. ( Something about the first night in deer camp :lol: ). The .300 got called the elephant gun from then on. But the deer never knew it was an elephant gun, there was no inordinate destruction of meat, and never more than one round was fired at over 23 deer in this camp. Some kills were over 400yds, most over 200. They put me in spots they never put anyone before because they realized those types of shots were reasonable for that rifle.( I am not bragging marksmanship here, the weapon and scope made it pretty easy to shoot standing/walking deer that have no clue you are out there ). As a brush buster - I'd put the .300 up against just about anything else, especially with a 190 - 220 grain spire point. Ballistic stability and energy in spades. Do I recommend a calibre like this to a child or novice - nope, especially if you are going to heavier bullets and hot loads. ( Although, if you were a reloader, you could start them out with some pretty tame but effective loads ). I would never recommend less than 100 grains for deer, and always in a large game designed bullet. It isn't that mine is bigger, ( although it is :lol: ), it is that mine is more effective, more versatile, and humane. [/QUOTE]
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