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<blockquote data-quote="John SD" data-source="post: 1149419" data-attributes="member: 14713"><p>A :tiphat: to you too 3way!</p><p></p><p>IMO, ethanol should be used as a fuel enhancer, not as a fuel replacement. A guy on another site who helped set up ethanol plants for a living has said this for years. Under this scenario of fuel enhancer vs fuel replacement, I would agree E-85 is really stupid idea.</p><p></p><p>Here in SD for a long time we have had E0 gasoline with a pathetic 84 or 85 octane rating. Pumps with this gas now must sport a warning label that this sub-standard octane gas might not be suitable for and could possibly damage your engine. </p><p></p><p> Most engines built currently including my 2012 Hyundai and the Kohler engine on my new zero turn Cub Cadet mower specify a minimum 87 octane.</p><p></p><p>87 octane is what most E10 gasoline is sold for now here. The oil companies take that crappy 84 and 85 octane gas they make, spike it with ethanol, and voila, 87 octane stuff your car is happy with. </p><p></p><p>I as a fuel customer would be happy to buy E30 for every gasoline engine I own. Works good year round in all my carb and non flex fuel injected vehicles, and gets the best gas mileage. </p><p></p><p> IMO, E30 offers the best combination of energy content, fuel efficiency, and $ per gallon cost. E30 is the "sweet spot" I try to attain by mixing E85 with E10, but I can very seldom do this just right at the pump. The closest blender pump dispensing E30 to me is over 200 miles away.</p><p></p><p>I top off my Hyundai with E85 when I get a chance. Too much E will cause the car less economy, and also will cause the check engine light to come on. So when the light comes on, after I can get 2-3 gallons of E0 in it and then the light goes off. I understand the excess E messes with the O2 sensor. But the car still runs good and has good power.</p><p></p><p>Kinda overdid it once and figured I had about E50 in the tank once. Car never missed a beat. Put the pedal down out on an open stretch of road and still had good power to cruise 100 mph. Didn't stay there long, just wanted to try'er out! ;-)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="John SD, post: 1149419, member: 14713"] A :tiphat: to you too 3way! IMO, ethanol should be used as a fuel enhancer, not as a fuel replacement. A guy on another site who helped set up ethanol plants for a living has said this for years. Under this scenario of fuel enhancer vs fuel replacement, I would agree E-85 is really stupid idea. Here in SD for a long time we have had E0 gasoline with a pathetic 84 or 85 octane rating. Pumps with this gas now must sport a warning label that this sub-standard octane gas might not be suitable for and could possibly damage your engine. Most engines built currently including my 2012 Hyundai and the Kohler engine on my new zero turn Cub Cadet mower specify a minimum 87 octane. 87 octane is what most E10 gasoline is sold for now here. The oil companies take that crappy 84 and 85 octane gas they make, spike it with ethanol, and voila, 87 octane stuff your car is happy with. I as a fuel customer would be happy to buy E30 for every gasoline engine I own. Works good year round in all my carb and non flex fuel injected vehicles, and gets the best gas mileage. IMO, E30 offers the best combination of energy content, fuel efficiency, and $ per gallon cost. E30 is the "sweet spot" I try to attain by mixing E85 with E10, but I can very seldom do this just right at the pump. The closest blender pump dispensing E30 to me is over 200 miles away. I top off my Hyundai with E85 when I get a chance. Too much E will cause the car less economy, and also will cause the check engine light to come on. So when the light comes on, after I can get 2-3 gallons of E0 in it and then the light goes off. I understand the excess E messes with the O2 sensor. But the car still runs good and has good power. Kinda overdid it once and figured I had about E50 in the tank once. Car never missed a beat. Put the pedal down out on an open stretch of road and still had good power to cruise 100 mph. Didn't stay there long, just wanted to try'er out! ;-) [/QUOTE]
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