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<blockquote data-quote="edrsimms" data-source="post: 697119" data-attributes="member: 10970"><p>IluvABbeef wrote:</p><p></p><p>So let me explain for you. Ca levels are determined by the level of phosphorus, magnesium and potassium levels. There is a "thing" called the Ca<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /> ratio. If there is too much P or Vit D, calcium deficiencies develop, since they prohibit the proper use of calcium in the animal's body. Similar thing with Mg and K. Ca is related to Lime because that's what Lime is; thus, yes the level of calcium in the soil is related to the lime index thing you spoke of. </p><p><strong>You are in the weeds here --- back to forages--- if your pH is off the forage plant will not be able to utilize the nutrients P or K, period. Now let me explain to you about something that is fairly common in some beef cattle --Milk fever--- why does this happen if you are feeding your cattle plenty of mineral and your forage is high in calcium? Milk fever happens when the cow isnt getting the required calcium because there is a trigger mechanism brought on by high P and K which sends a signal to the system that calcium is plentiful-- even when the opposite is true --hence milk fever--- How do we maintain the proper Ca levels?????? >>>>>>>> proper pH </strong></p><p></p><p>. But as for the direct correlation of Ca to sol. CHOs?</p><p></p><p>Upon doing some research, you do have a point (to your example), but this is especially related to the growth stages of the grasses within the species. The correlation differs between each species. But this is from what I seen with the relation between the levels of DE (digestible energy) in Mcal/lb of, for instance, KBG, and percentage of calcium.</p><p></p><p>So now, I will let the rest of the cattlemen and women on here discuss this post to it's unprecedented end. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="edrsimms, post: 697119, member: 10970"] IluvABbeef wrote: So let me explain for you. Ca levels are determined by the level of phosphorus, magnesium and potassium levels. There is a "thing" called the Ca:P ratio. If there is too much P or Vit D, calcium deficiencies develop, since they prohibit the proper use of calcium in the animal's body. Similar thing with Mg and K. Ca is related to Lime because that's what Lime is; thus, yes the level of calcium in the soil is related to the lime index thing you spoke of. [b]You are in the weeds here --- back to forages--- if your pH is off the forage plant will not be able to utilize the nutrients P or K, period. Now let me explain to you about something that is fairly common in some beef cattle --Milk fever--- why does this happen if you are feeding your cattle plenty of mineral and your forage is high in calcium? Milk fever happens when the cow isnt getting the required calcium because there is a trigger mechanism brought on by high P and K which sends a signal to the system that calcium is plentiful-- even when the opposite is true --hence milk fever--- How do we maintain the proper Ca levels?????? >>>>>>>> proper pH [/b] . But as for the direct correlation of Ca to sol. CHOs? Upon doing some research, you do have a point (to your example), but this is especially related to the growth stages of the grasses within the species. The correlation differs between each species. But this is from what I seen with the relation between the levels of DE (digestible energy) in Mcal/lb of, for instance, KBG, and percentage of calcium. So now, I will let the rest of the cattlemen and women on here discuss this post to it's unprecedented end. :) [/QUOTE]
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