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<blockquote data-quote="IGotMyWings" data-source="post: 740627" data-attributes="member: 8639"><p>I don't mean to condemn grain fed beef, what I mean to condemn is the way that chemical companies are running and ruining the product you and I work hard to raise. As for the benefits of grass fed verses grain fed, <a href="http://eatwild.com/healthbenefits.htm" target="_blank">http://eatwild.com/healthbenefits.htm</a>, explains them in detail. I've used this example before, but it's worth sharing again. You take pride in your cattle operation. You work hard to make sure your animals are healthy. You load up a bunch to take to the market, and you get your $.80/pound. The market that just bought your cattle, turns around and sells them to someone else who takes them to a feedlot where they are crammed into a small area where they stand and lay in the excrement of each other for an extended period of time. Because of the dirty, cramped conditions, they feed antibiotic laced feed, even to animals that aren't sick. By doing this, they are making the micro-organisms resistant to antibiotics http://www.cspinet.org/reports/abiotic.htm/[url], which means that they will increase the amount needed to treat sick animals (and fed to the ones that aren't sick because they don't separate them), and when this happens, there is more danger of antibiotic residue in the meat. When there is such a residue, people like a friend of mine who is allergic to anything penicillin based, has a reaction to a hamburger she eats. I understand that there are guidelines in place that are there to protect against residues, but when my friend breaks out in hives after eating a hamburger once in a while, it makes a person wonder. In essence, what has happened is that your perfectly healthy steer has been tainted by people who would rather treat the symptom (or prevent the symptom) than the problem. You didn't do it, your neighbor didn't do it. A large corporation that can't be bothered with with dealing with the "why" did it. I am partnered with a neighbor who raises his cattle on a mix of pasture/hay and corn with a natural supplement so that people that don't have the taste for grass fed beef can get corn fed beef that's not fed steroids, and not stuffed with antibiotics. If I was so opposed to grain feeding, I wouldn't bother with it, because when I sell one of his, I don't make a dime. My goal is to offer better meat than is typically found in the grocery. My opposition is against the chemicals and additives that make our food less nutritionally valuable, whether that is meat or milk or potatoes! My intent with this discussion was to get people to look at the big picture, and see how tinkering with nature in order to make a nickel is tainting the products what we raise. People say that GMO is just as natural as "natural" or organic, but even the bodies that regulate what things are labeled don't say that. Genetic modification, tampering with the DNA of a plant in order to make it resistant to certain chemicals, will have the same effect that over use of antibiotics has had. My seed rep was just telling me yesterday, that he's seeing where the weeds are already adjusting to RR crops. Again, I'm not against you or grain fed cattle. My grass feeding is a choice for me and my customer base. I believe that grass fed and grain fed beef can share markets. I know that not everyone will like grass fed, just like people have a preference for different kinds of vanilla ice cream! All I'm trying to say, and perhaps I've said it poorly, is that truly natural ingredients make for a better end product. Going back to the ice cream, how many of you, given the choice, will purchase artificially flavored vanilla over naturally flavored? How many of you prefer butter to margarine? How many of you prefer well water to city water? I'm not really an antagonistic tree hugger type. I simply believe that a lot of our health issues are from the one common denominator that all socioeconomic levels share, and that's food. Whether you make millions or thousands, everyone shops for groceries. And given the fact that in this particular board, this topic has the fourth largest number of views, GMO feed is a concern or interest to a lot of people.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="IGotMyWings, post: 740627, member: 8639"] I don't mean to condemn grain fed beef, what I mean to condemn is the way that chemical companies are running and ruining the product you and I work hard to raise. As for the benefits of grass fed verses grain fed, [url]http://eatwild.com/healthbenefits.htm[/url], explains them in detail. I've used this example before, but it's worth sharing again. You take pride in your cattle operation. You work hard to make sure your animals are healthy. You load up a bunch to take to the market, and you get your $.80/pound. The market that just bought your cattle, turns around and sells them to someone else who takes them to a feedlot where they are crammed into a small area where they stand and lay in the excrement of each other for an extended period of time. Because of the dirty, cramped conditions, they feed antibiotic laced feed, even to animals that aren't sick. By doing this, they are making the micro-organisms resistant to antibiotics [url]http://www.cspinet.org/reports/abiotic.htm/[url], which means that they will increase the amount needed to treat sick animals (and fed to the ones that aren't sick because they don't separate them), and when this happens, there is more danger of antibiotic residue in the meat. When there is such a residue, people like a friend of mine who is allergic to anything penicillin based, has a reaction to a hamburger she eats. I understand that there are guidelines in place that are there to protect against residues, but when my friend breaks out in hives after eating a hamburger once in a while, it makes a person wonder. In essence, what has happened is that your perfectly healthy steer has been tainted by people who would rather treat the symptom (or prevent the symptom) than the problem. You didn't do it, your neighbor didn't do it. A large corporation that can't be bothered with with dealing with the "why" did it. I am partnered with a neighbor who raises his cattle on a mix of pasture/hay and corn with a natural supplement so that people that don't have the taste for grass fed beef can get corn fed beef that's not fed steroids, and not stuffed with antibiotics. If I was so opposed to grain feeding, I wouldn't bother with it, because when I sell one of his, I don't make a dime. My goal is to offer better meat than is typically found in the grocery. My opposition is against the chemicals and additives that make our food less nutritionally valuable, whether that is meat or milk or potatoes! My intent with this discussion was to get people to look at the big picture, and see how tinkering with nature in order to make a nickel is tainting the products what we raise. People say that GMO is just as natural as "natural" or organic, but even the bodies that regulate what things are labeled don't say that. Genetic modification, tampering with the DNA of a plant in order to make it resistant to certain chemicals, will have the same effect that over use of antibiotics has had. My seed rep was just telling me yesterday, that he's seeing where the weeds are already adjusting to RR crops. Again, I'm not against you or grain fed cattle. My grass feeding is a choice for me and my customer base. I believe that grass fed and grain fed beef can share markets. I know that not everyone will like grass fed, just like people have a preference for different kinds of vanilla ice cream! All I'm trying to say, and perhaps I've said it poorly, is that truly natural ingredients make for a better end product. Going back to the ice cream, how many of you, given the choice, will purchase artificially flavored vanilla over naturally flavored? How many of you prefer butter to margarine? How many of you prefer well water to city water? I'm not really an antagonistic tree hugger type. I simply believe that a lot of our health issues are from the one common denominator that all socioeconomic levels share, and that's food. Whether you make millions or thousands, everyone shops for groceries. And given the fact that in this particular board, this topic has the fourth largest number of views, GMO feed is a concern or interest to a lot of people.[/url] [/QUOTE]
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