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<blockquote data-quote="randiliana" data-source="post: 435647" data-attributes="member: 2308"><p>I agree, and I disagree. You can make calm cattle wild by treating them badly, but you cannot always make wild cattle calm. Some cattle are simply born wild. And I do know what I am talking about. </p><p></p><p>We run 170 head of cattle, 140 are ours, and 30 are leased cattle. For the most part, we can handle our cattle with no problems. Except for a couple exceptions they are pretty calm, we can work them, walk through them, run them down the chute, and no-one has to worry about being run over or having cattle go through or over a fence, there is very little excitement. </p><p></p><p>Now the 30 lease cattle are a different story. We have had them 4 years now, and they are better than they were when we first got them, but try to actually work with them, or put them in a chute and you have animals bouncing off the fences, and you better be watching your back just a bit. Try just try walking through them, or riding a horse through them. As soon as they see you they are gone, to the farthest corner they can get to. To top it off the calves off these cows are even worse. We had to treat a couple for pnemonia a couple weeks ago. Sorting the 2 off that we needed was quite interesting. We had one calf literally go through a rail fence. We had cut him back, thinking he was one that we needed. It was fortunate that we didn't need him because he made his own gate to get out. When we finally got the 2 we needed into the crowding pen, they were bouncing off the walls, and this was before we even tried to run them down the chute. There was no yelling, no arm waving, nothing going on to get these animals excited, short of the fact that we had them in and were trying to sort the un-needed ones off.</p><p></p><p>We can run most of our own calves down the chute, and never have them get excited, maybe get a little worked up once they are caught and you are needling or what not, but not bounce off the fence excited. So to say that all cattle are 'made' wild is a bit broad.....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="randiliana, post: 435647, member: 2308"] I agree, and I disagree. You can make calm cattle wild by treating them badly, but you cannot always make wild cattle calm. Some cattle are simply born wild. And I do know what I am talking about. We run 170 head of cattle, 140 are ours, and 30 are leased cattle. For the most part, we can handle our cattle with no problems. Except for a couple exceptions they are pretty calm, we can work them, walk through them, run them down the chute, and no-one has to worry about being run over or having cattle go through or over a fence, there is very little excitement. Now the 30 lease cattle are a different story. We have had them 4 years now, and they are better than they were when we first got them, but try to actually work with them, or put them in a chute and you have animals bouncing off the fences, and you better be watching your back just a bit. Try just try walking through them, or riding a horse through them. As soon as they see you they are gone, to the farthest corner they can get to. To top it off the calves off these cows are even worse. We had to treat a couple for pnemonia a couple weeks ago. Sorting the 2 off that we needed was quite interesting. We had one calf literally go through a rail fence. We had cut him back, thinking he was one that we needed. It was fortunate that we didn't need him because he made his own gate to get out. When we finally got the 2 we needed into the crowding pen, they were bouncing off the walls, and this was before we even tried to run them down the chute. There was no yelling, no arm waving, nothing going on to get these animals excited, short of the fact that we had them in and were trying to sort the un-needed ones off. We can run most of our own calves down the chute, and never have them get excited, maybe get a little worked up once they are caught and you are needling or what not, but not bounce off the fence excited. So to say that all cattle are 'made' wild is a bit broad..... [/QUOTE]
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