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<blockquote data-quote="UG" data-source="post: 758685" data-attributes="member: 714"><p>dun,</p><p></p><p>Though I have not used any of the red Gelbvieh bulls from ABS, I've also been curious about them. Following are comments that I have heard from breeders that have used him.</p><p></p><p>Tobasco: Sires some really good, functional cattle. However, he isn't as consistent as other bulls, with some of his calves not being keepers...I don't recall what they didn't like about some of his progeny.</p><p></p><p>Sir Arnold: Old bull that has been in the ABS line up for lots of years...impressive EPDS. Being red and hetero polled limits his semen sales. The only negative I heard on this bull is that his daughters may have a little longer teats than what some would prefer. He has been on my short list for years, just hasn't made the final cut.</p><p></p><p>Top Brass: Though his CE and growth EPDs are adequate to good, a Gelbvieh milk EPD of 35 concerns me, and his carcass EPDs are not very good. He was sampled pretty hard by many Gelbvieh producers early on but they didn't seem to go back to him after their first calf crop. Like Tobasco, I've heard that he doesn't sire consistently good cattle.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="UG, post: 758685, member: 714"] dun, Though I have not used any of the red Gelbvieh bulls from ABS, I've also been curious about them. Following are comments that I have heard from breeders that have used him. Tobasco: Sires some really good, functional cattle. However, he isn't as consistent as other bulls, with some of his calves not being keepers...I don't recall what they didn't like about some of his progeny. Sir Arnold: Old bull that has been in the ABS line up for lots of years...impressive EPDS. Being red and hetero polled limits his semen sales. The only negative I heard on this bull is that his daughters may have a little longer teats than what some would prefer. He has been on my short list for years, just hasn't made the final cut. Top Brass: Though his CE and growth EPDs are adequate to good, a Gelbvieh milk EPD of 35 concerns me, and his carcass EPDs are not very good. He was sampled pretty hard by many Gelbvieh producers early on but they didn't seem to go back to him after their first calf crop. Like Tobasco, I've heard that he doesn't sire consistently good cattle. [/QUOTE]
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