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<blockquote data-quote="DiamondSCattleCo" data-source="post: 289996" data-attributes="member: 2862"><p>The raw numbers don't tell the complete story though Flaboy. The Ford F-Series sales numbers that you read on their website also include F450/550 trucks in which Dodge has no competing product in North America. Add in numbers from Freightliner for the FL50 series, and you have a different picture. </p><p></p><p>Also, you need to look at the changes in sales volume. Since the introduction of the 6.0L, and only since that introduction, F-series diesel powered trucks have lost approximately 15% of their market share. Chevy has remained about level, while Dodge has picked up market share in the light truck diesel market. I don't have the 2006 numbers yet, since the year isn't up, but thus far, Ford has lost even more diesel market share.</p><p></p><p>Actually if you take the raw International Powerstroke sales numbers and compare them to Cummins 5.9L sales numbers, the Powerstroke is pretty dismal. Its not a fair comparison I realize, since the 5.9 Cummins is in so many markets, but if the 6.0L was really an incredible engine, they should have taken away sales from 5.9 Cummins which competes in many of the same market categories. Heck, until the introduction of the VP44 5.9L Cummins, 7.3L Powerstrokes were gaining market share. After the 6.0L introduction, which co-incided with the release of the ISBe, Cummins regained ground, and then surpassed their previous market share.</p><p></p><p>Now that International has gotten smart and went with the Siemens injection system (which IMHO is superior to the Bosch system in many ways), we may see a reversal again. I really wish I'd been a fly on the wall at International when the decision was made to stick with those rediculous hydraulic injectors. Virtually everyone in the industry expected the 6.0L to come out with that Siemens injection system. Some bean counter somewhere put a stop to it I spose....</p><p></p><p>Just my 2 canuck cents, for whatever they're worth.</p><p></p><p>Rod</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DiamondSCattleCo, post: 289996, member: 2862"] The raw numbers don't tell the complete story though Flaboy. The Ford F-Series sales numbers that you read on their website also include F450/550 trucks in which Dodge has no competing product in North America. Add in numbers from Freightliner for the FL50 series, and you have a different picture. Also, you need to look at the changes in sales volume. Since the introduction of the 6.0L, and only since that introduction, F-series diesel powered trucks have lost approximately 15% of their market share. Chevy has remained about level, while Dodge has picked up market share in the light truck diesel market. I don't have the 2006 numbers yet, since the year isn't up, but thus far, Ford has lost even more diesel market share. Actually if you take the raw International Powerstroke sales numbers and compare them to Cummins 5.9L sales numbers, the Powerstroke is pretty dismal. Its not a fair comparison I realize, since the 5.9 Cummins is in so many markets, but if the 6.0L was really an incredible engine, they should have taken away sales from 5.9 Cummins which competes in many of the same market categories. Heck, until the introduction of the VP44 5.9L Cummins, 7.3L Powerstrokes were gaining market share. After the 6.0L introduction, which co-incided with the release of the ISBe, Cummins regained ground, and then surpassed their previous market share. Now that International has gotten smart and went with the Siemens injection system (which IMHO is superior to the Bosch system in many ways), we may see a reversal again. I really wish I'd been a fly on the wall at International when the decision was made to stick with those rediculous hydraulic injectors. Virtually everyone in the industry expected the 6.0L to come out with that Siemens injection system. Some bean counter somewhere put a stop to it I spose.... Just my 2 canuck cents, for whatever they're worth. Rod [/QUOTE]
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