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<blockquote data-quote="KMacGinley" data-source="post: 713101" data-attributes="member: 3175"><p>This has certainly been entertaining. When Frankie posts pictures of her cattle they certainly show high quality for the market that she is aiming for. A large segment of the cattle industry believes in the test station concept and loves those well conditioned bulls that exhibit high growth. There is a certain satisfaction in producing cattle that can gain that 4-6 lbs per day. </p><p></p><p> Back when corn was $2.00 a bushel, I thought that that was where it was at also. I bred a moderate framed bull that had an actual weaning weight of 750 no creep and an actual yearling weight of 1450 on his first birthday. To get to 1450 he put away 20+ lbs of corn per day and 2 lbs of 34% beef pellets along with free choice hay. </p><p></p><p> In the past several years, I have changed my thinking diametrically, because I too have come to believe that bulls should be developed slowly. In most cattle there is plenty of growth. The whole bull test station deal was fine for a time, to get away from 400 lb weaning weights and 800 lb yearling weights. We are well beyond that now. So far beyond, that the angus breed and the hereford breed are now trying to out terminal, the terminal breeds. </p><p></p><p> What I am trying to breed, are moderate cattle that can grow well on feed if that is what you want, but also will fit into your herd as females and cause no problems, good udders, hold their flesh on no grain ever, ease of calving, good dispositions and last and last. I like to think of this as the bullseye or hub of the wheel approach. If you think of an archery target with the extremes around the edge, we are aiming for the center. The high 4 low 5 frame 1300 lb cow that milks enough and breeds back. No calf pulling, no helping calves get on a teat, with little or no flight zone</p><p></p><p> As a result, our bulls are now developed on our best hay in the winter and our best pasture in the summer. I want them to last for our customers. One herd that we have placed 6 bulls in 6 years still has all 6 out there breeding cows. Which come to think of it, may be a disadvantage to me. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p> To help, we have also added in Ohlde genetics, as you saw from my bull pictured on the breeds page. Next spring, I am going to throw some Shoshone x strain genetics in as well from Mike Keeney, whose model A type of cattle resonate with me. I think that this is right for me. I think that what ever is right for you is right for you. I have a certain type of cattle in mind and a way to produce those cattle.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KMacGinley, post: 713101, member: 3175"] This has certainly been entertaining. When Frankie posts pictures of her cattle they certainly show high quality for the market that she is aiming for. A large segment of the cattle industry believes in the test station concept and loves those well conditioned bulls that exhibit high growth. There is a certain satisfaction in producing cattle that can gain that 4-6 lbs per day. Back when corn was $2.00 a bushel, I thought that that was where it was at also. I bred a moderate framed bull that had an actual weaning weight of 750 no creep and an actual yearling weight of 1450 on his first birthday. To get to 1450 he put away 20+ lbs of corn per day and 2 lbs of 34% beef pellets along with free choice hay. In the past several years, I have changed my thinking diametrically, because I too have come to believe that bulls should be developed slowly. In most cattle there is plenty of growth. The whole bull test station deal was fine for a time, to get away from 400 lb weaning weights and 800 lb yearling weights. We are well beyond that now. So far beyond, that the angus breed and the hereford breed are now trying to out terminal, the terminal breeds. What I am trying to breed, are moderate cattle that can grow well on feed if that is what you want, but also will fit into your herd as females and cause no problems, good udders, hold their flesh on no grain ever, ease of calving, good dispositions and last and last. I like to think of this as the bullseye or hub of the wheel approach. If you think of an archery target with the extremes around the edge, we are aiming for the center. The high 4 low 5 frame 1300 lb cow that milks enough and breeds back. No calf pulling, no helping calves get on a teat, with little or no flight zone As a result, our bulls are now developed on our best hay in the winter and our best pasture in the summer. I want them to last for our customers. One herd that we have placed 6 bulls in 6 years still has all 6 out there breeding cows. Which come to think of it, may be a disadvantage to me. :) To help, we have also added in Ohlde genetics, as you saw from my bull pictured on the breeds page. Next spring, I am going to throw some Shoshone x strain genetics in as well from Mike Keeney, whose model A type of cattle resonate with me. I think that this is right for me. I think that what ever is right for you is right for you. I have a certain type of cattle in mind and a way to produce those cattle. [/QUOTE]
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