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<blockquote data-quote="blackcowz" data-source="post: 713089" data-attributes="member: 8834"><p>Yipes, you are little touchy. You just made a case for forage development. If 50% of the bulls were culled, you're gonna tell me that's <em>bad</em>? Not every animal with a pair of testicles should go out and produce calves. If 50% got culled, buying a forage tested bull is all the better because you know you've sorted the men from the boys. If anything, culling out all the ones not up to snuff is the best thing that can happen. If a bull can get big weights and gains and look good on grain, big whoop. So can a heck of a lot of average stock. Not everyone can do the same thing on forage.</p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.stockmangrassfarmer.net/cgi-bin/page.cgi?id=423" target="_blank">http://www.stockmangrassfarmer.net/cgi- ... cgi?id=423</a></p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.thebeefsite.com/articles/1491/reproductive-fertility-in-herd-bulls" target="_blank">http://www.thebeefsite.com/articles/149 ... herd-bulls</a></p><p></p><p>And as NR said, so what if they pass a BSE? If a bull is more fertile, produces more sperm, and is already in good condition on just being on grass, he'll get more cows bred and more bred on the first cycle. That's just plain common sense if you ask me. If I can turn out more cows with less bulls, isn't that more cost effective? In closing, don't try to turn this around on me. You were the one who started this whole deal about forage development. If you didn't want it to turn out this way, common sense ought to have told you that if you came to saying forage development is not the best way to develop bulls, you can bet that someone is going to have a very different opinion. Like me, for instance. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> So, you feed your bulls grain and make a lot of money, and I'll feed my bulls grass and make a lot of money. To each his own.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="blackcowz, post: 713089, member: 8834"] Yipes, you are little touchy. You just made a case for forage development. If 50% of the bulls were culled, you're gonna tell me that's [i]bad[/i]? Not every animal with a pair of testicles should go out and produce calves. If 50% got culled, buying a forage tested bull is all the better because you know you've sorted the men from the boys. If anything, culling out all the ones not up to snuff is the best thing that can happen. If a bull can get big weights and gains and look good on grain, big whoop. So can a heck of a lot of average stock. Not everyone can do the same thing on forage. [url=http://www.stockmangrassfarmer.net/cgi-bin/page.cgi?id=423]http://www.stockmangrassfarmer.net/cgi- ... cgi?id=423[/url] [url=http://www.thebeefsite.com/articles/1491/reproductive-fertility-in-herd-bulls]http://www.thebeefsite.com/articles/149 ... herd-bulls[/url] And as NR said, so what if they pass a BSE? If a bull is more fertile, produces more sperm, and is already in good condition on just being on grass, he'll get more cows bred and more bred on the first cycle. That's just plain common sense if you ask me. If I can turn out more cows with less bulls, isn't that more cost effective? In closing, don't try to turn this around on me. You were the one who started this whole deal about forage development. If you didn't want it to turn out this way, common sense ought to have told you that if you came to saying forage development is not the best way to develop bulls, you can bet that someone is going to have a very different opinion. Like me, for instance. :D So, you feed your bulls grain and make a lot of money, and I'll feed my bulls grass and make a lot of money. To each his own. [/QUOTE]
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