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<blockquote data-quote="Frankie" data-source="post: 59621" data-attributes="member: 13"><p>The problem with selecting your breeding stock by performance alone is that management plays such a role in performance. My neighbor uses many of the same Angus bulls as I use. But since he creeps his calves, his weaning weights are heavier than mine. If you selected your bulls only on performance, you'd probably buy his instead of mine. But if you look at the EPDs on our cattle, they are very similar because the genetics are similar. I would also disagree that "most" EPDs drop when the actual data comes in. I use very few young bulls, but if you select properly, you don't have to worry about much dropoff in EPDs. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why wouldn't you use other people's successes and failures to help build your own herd? There's no reason to reinvent the wheel at every breeding. Would you go buy a washing machine or car if you knew it was a sorry piece of equipment? Wait for that bull's accuracies to get to a point that you feel comfortable, get out and look at some calves, see how the commercial cattlemen bid when his sons come into the ring, then if his EPDs hold up, use him. I don't consider that "copy"ing someone else. It's just cutting the odds that you won't be happy with your calf crop. Under the best of circumstances, there are no guarantees anyway.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Frankie, post: 59621, member: 13"] The problem with selecting your breeding stock by performance alone is that management plays such a role in performance. My neighbor uses many of the same Angus bulls as I use. But since he creeps his calves, his weaning weights are heavier than mine. If you selected your bulls only on performance, you'd probably buy his instead of mine. But if you look at the EPDs on our cattle, they are very similar because the genetics are similar. I would also disagree that "most" EPDs drop when the actual data comes in. I use very few young bulls, but if you select properly, you don't have to worry about much dropoff in EPDs. Why wouldn't you use other people's successes and failures to help build your own herd? There's no reason to reinvent the wheel at every breeding. Would you go buy a washing machine or car if you knew it was a sorry piece of equipment? Wait for that bull's accuracies to get to a point that you feel comfortable, get out and look at some calves, see how the commercial cattlemen bid when his sons come into the ring, then if his EPDs hold up, use him. I don't consider that "copy"ing someone else. It's just cutting the odds that you won't be happy with your calf crop. Under the best of circumstances, there are no guarantees anyway. [/QUOTE]
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