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<blockquote data-quote="Ebenezer" data-source="post: 1581051" data-attributes="member: 24565"><p>Yes. You will get zero breed back on the wrong genetics. Had a neighbor who brought in quite a few high dollar and high performance mature cows from a nationally known herd and he ended up shooting and burying a good number due to loss of hooves and such.</p><p></p><p>You can protect your herd with fall calving but you see the full effects of non adapted cows with spring calving and breeding back now. Many split calving herds are because of cattle that fall out in the spring and are saved for the fall. Br probably has a fall breeding schedule to tie to show cattle but he likely have more trouble with breeding in a spring program. Anything I say is not a bashing of northern cattle genetics only. Cattle developed south of us on bermuda and bahia forages (no fescue) also may not transition well to the fescue belt. Some of you probably remember the Graham Angus herd. Folks who bought very many would tell of some that would not do well or even die. It's cheaper to find the genetics that work and use the fescue with wisdom (dilution, winter and summer annuals, minerals, ...).</p><p></p><p>We have never tested need for minerals but we learned by doing and slowly trying options and saw elimination of foot problems, higher rebreeding, better performance, .... The fescue we sampled came back at 93% endophyte infected.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ebenezer, post: 1581051, member: 24565"] Yes. You will get zero breed back on the wrong genetics. Had a neighbor who brought in quite a few high dollar and high performance mature cows from a nationally known herd and he ended up shooting and burying a good number due to loss of hooves and such. You can protect your herd with fall calving but you see the full effects of non adapted cows with spring calving and breeding back now. Many split calving herds are because of cattle that fall out in the spring and are saved for the fall. Br probably has a fall breeding schedule to tie to show cattle but he likely have more trouble with breeding in a spring program. Anything I say is not a bashing of northern cattle genetics only. Cattle developed south of us on bermuda and bahia forages (no fescue) also may not transition well to the fescue belt. Some of you probably remember the Graham Angus herd. Folks who bought very many would tell of some that would not do well or even die. It's cheaper to find the genetics that work and use the fescue with wisdom (dilution, winter and summer annuals, minerals, ...). We have never tested need for minerals but we learned by doing and slowly trying options and saw elimination of foot problems, higher rebreeding, better performance, .... The fescue we sampled came back at 93% endophyte infected. [/QUOTE]
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