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<blockquote data-quote="greybeard" data-source="post: 1827909" data-attributes="member: 18945"><p>This is some really interesting talk, even for me with NoCows. Where was this discussion back when I had SomeCows?</p><p>Depending how many I had (and it was never more than around 30 and usually somewhere between a handful and 20) I either put the calves in the pen (yellow) or if more calves, in the black area (there's good fencing on either side of the black area plus the pond none ever tried to cross) and the mommas and others roamed the fences in the blue area but mostly stayed close to their calves and did what mommas do when separated from their calves. And yes, the mommas were much worse than the calves, and always 1 or 2 that stayed around bawling long after the other mommas had 'got with the program' and quietened down and moved on. Being that close to the house, it got noisy. Didn't bother me much, but drove my wife nuts at night and even the nearest neighbor called once to ask if everything was ok at my place. (Their polite way of saying the bawling was heard at their home).</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]37441[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>What (if any) effect does this have on the calves if they are retained? It kinda sounds like it has a light sedative effect and would it have a habit forming type thing if it was used at weaning and every time they are worked?</p><p></p><p>I'm not dissing it's use at ALL , just curious.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="greybeard, post: 1827909, member: 18945"] This is some really interesting talk, even for me with NoCows. Where was this discussion back when I had SomeCows? Depending how many I had (and it was never more than around 30 and usually somewhere between a handful and 20) I either put the calves in the pen (yellow) or if more calves, in the black area (there's good fencing on either side of the black area plus the pond none ever tried to cross) and the mommas and others roamed the fences in the blue area but mostly stayed close to their calves and did what mommas do when separated from their calves. And yes, the mommas were much worse than the calves, and always 1 or 2 that stayed around bawling long after the other mommas had 'got with the program' and quietened down and moved on. Being that close to the house, it got noisy. Didn't bother me much, but drove my wife nuts at night and even the nearest neighbor called once to ask if everything was ok at my place. (Their polite way of saying the bawling was heard at their home). [ATTACH type="full" alt="weanarea.jpg"]37441[/ATTACH] What (if any) effect does this have on the calves if they are retained? It kinda sounds like it has a light sedative effect and would it have a habit forming type thing if it was used at weaning and every time they are worked? I'm not dissing it's use at ALL , just curious. [/QUOTE]
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