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<blockquote data-quote="Dusty Britches" data-source="post: 1659238" data-attributes="member: 1900"><p>A few weeks ago we cleared a fence line and started building a new fence. I hired a young man to help set the posts and I ran the wire by myself. I set my end braces with single Hs and they are 290 yards (870 feet) apart. All H brace posts are RR cross ties or telephone poles placed 4 feet in the ground. Due to the soil structure - clay and sandy loam we generally do not use concrete. The ground will break it up on the 12" posts. Smaller posts are ok but we seem to have much less trouble when we don't concrete. I ran 5 strand of high tensile tight enough to sing. It was really nice. Obviously I'm not working very fast but before the rain started, all I had to do was tack the tension posts and clip tposts.</p><p></p><p>The neighbor's place has a low spot a few yards from my fence that fills with water and drains through my corner. There is a bull hole in front of the brace that we had intended to fill before the rain but ran out of time. Actually, the weather guys said to expect a 1/2-1". They were a tad off. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>2 weeks ago we received an astonishing 5 inches of rain over an 8 hour period. I guess the 4 month dry spell ended with that. The water drained right though one end and that H Brace shifted about 3 -4 inches but very little of the soil washed out. From the other end of the line to about half way down which is where we stopped, the posts stayed straight and the line stayed tight. From that point to the Hbrace the wire now sags substantially and there's no doubt that I will have to straighten the Hbrace and a few of the tension posts.</p><p></p><p>Here's several photos.</p><p></p><p>You can see the water here across the fence. My tension post is also leaning. The next few photos just walk down the line from left to right.</p><p><img src="https://dm2301files.storage.live.com/y4mW96x6ZnVDNhCaGXq5_pJ2OXFij75vCTQO9QIDZdovAoyDbzDPqeI1H1jY_Nh--vRgr-cM6Qfyr7cRh3UtoPD3XRlWrYF2KzNndTPoisCGsLxBaDwLbwIroGsa-MVM6fg7BI9eRc9DygAsvz76ZFwiV8ZNijYZ2ebICyhKFgvIHN8kzy-C-ho3pfyMbhzOqq1?width=1024&height=768&cropmode=none" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p><img src="https://dm2301files.storage.live.com/y4mdo6rzi22QOWKfB7eCyHE_r-6yc-lyOpg9Zw24Euc2X8qkMA066lsP--C86IusKqo1RxZYE5LIGZkHNOzarWyLt-QNsH3K02JwByRLA8GuQ_PmPDIBUrZWIXkacQHz8VdL2hEerGxsGfSfSv6JhjE5DdjHV4w7QAy_drQcTwhfub6_6YGfoRtggMphK24jSan?width=1024&height=768&cropmode=none" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p><img src="https://dm2301files.storage.live.com/y4mAWk59j2ZJauHJ4C4xB3iekFodRwWJiuHBZViP_GWQj4kgTuAXHnn01NqiqtFiA0yDu6rfK96IMJHu08DR7On4UDWJlV1JiD5g7aOzr9-HgefgCCJbAuI44F7LIarY49GIRsO3KweZU25SVrg3WrmOt6XRfPkGBHPAqcNXACDUI2TF1EtD7I_Iivq6grlCE-1?width=1024&height=768&cropmode=none" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p><img src="https://dm2301files.storage.live.com/y4m1Ex0LvjlGBErYbTdFJL2uT_Exn6-0aiS7Jgot7JLj0fpAEMMoJz3YcGXgZ-epYREJeQwEi1axnKOj5OFKNuy6f-jlp-_zoujztehugNJ1kh7Al_dnsBHeXsYkBu1nRFuOL3lT-8Pb0st0Dp1AKEfpS_5HYHldlOcdRxXi5VH7o2QFMhxWuyGez5vRBrUAGqF?width=1024&height=768&cropmode=none" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>The panoramic of those photos:</p><p><img src="https://dm2301files.storage.live.com/y4mNtvWNtOQ5sZI0rLWY6YEFBLyNxynGRg1c3Npt_nmTdOnDVe-zA0pqHn6Z6Bvd-mYHWyTjXpU52aNR4imh-QMqvQ8E9nnr4x8XTYV-tWBL2j7MxWi7DI4JafrKQLjTjpz2CEJMScnOhfXkwYVXPKO1ugyktNaohWCDdNlQrWVpiRj4VB-LSGaujxRy58kGHac?width=1024&height=351&cropmode=none" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>The round post in the middle of the H brace is actually about 18" behind it and is on my neighbor's place. My fence sits on my property line.</p><p><img src="https://dm2301files.storage.live.com/y4mWDw6UKqrcLwLgBoeCnm3wwKM1ZDloCBuLdh52lfgzLc7Tc4C6qSHzLRukek54QMi58QRmGMRtlrJeL9IMTjPMFBZvV02enDVHbzAfT7fTGoVXKVGZNIl7ABmqreI7cy-RHeM-xNUu0c61-wK4IUa4g-WIwAUgENPzjadOmitAqoXz2tz59s9YI1FCg64TOh9?width=1024&height=768&cropmode=none" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Here's my question - should I just use my tractor (JD5525) in line with the fence to straighten the brace and then just add soil to fill the hole? Or should I splice the wire, straighten it and add another post to make it a double H brace? And finally, I'm hesitant to channel that water because of erosion. The sheet wash effect doesn't rip out the soil but I think a channel will soon become a ditch.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dusty Britches, post: 1659238, member: 1900"] A few weeks ago we cleared a fence line and started building a new fence. I hired a young man to help set the posts and I ran the wire by myself. I set my end braces with single Hs and they are 290 yards (870 feet) apart. All H brace posts are RR cross ties or telephone poles placed 4 feet in the ground. Due to the soil structure - clay and sandy loam we generally do not use concrete. The ground will break it up on the 12" posts. Smaller posts are ok but we seem to have much less trouble when we don't concrete. I ran 5 strand of high tensile tight enough to sing. It was really nice. Obviously I'm not working very fast but before the rain started, all I had to do was tack the tension posts and clip tposts. The neighbor's place has a low spot a few yards from my fence that fills with water and drains through my corner. There is a bull hole in front of the brace that we had intended to fill before the rain but ran out of time. Actually, the weather guys said to expect a 1/2-1". They were a tad off. :D 2 weeks ago we received an astonishing 5 inches of rain over an 8 hour period. I guess the 4 month dry spell ended with that. The water drained right though one end and that H Brace shifted about 3 -4 inches but very little of the soil washed out. From the other end of the line to about half way down which is where we stopped, the posts stayed straight and the line stayed tight. From that point to the Hbrace the wire now sags substantially and there's no doubt that I will have to straighten the Hbrace and a few of the tension posts. Here's several photos. You can see the water here across the fence. My tension post is also leaning. The next few photos just walk down the line from left to right. [IMG]https://dm2301files.storage.live.com/y4mW96x6ZnVDNhCaGXq5_pJ2OXFij75vCTQO9QIDZdovAoyDbzDPqeI1H1jY_Nh--vRgr-cM6Qfyr7cRh3UtoPD3XRlWrYF2KzNndTPoisCGsLxBaDwLbwIroGsa-MVM6fg7BI9eRc9DygAsvz76ZFwiV8ZNijYZ2ebICyhKFgvIHN8kzy-C-ho3pfyMbhzOqq1?width=1024&height=768&cropmode=none[/IMG] [IMG]https://dm2301files.storage.live.com/y4mdo6rzi22QOWKfB7eCyHE_r-6yc-lyOpg9Zw24Euc2X8qkMA066lsP--C86IusKqo1RxZYE5LIGZkHNOzarWyLt-QNsH3K02JwByRLA8GuQ_PmPDIBUrZWIXkacQHz8VdL2hEerGxsGfSfSv6JhjE5DdjHV4w7QAy_drQcTwhfub6_6YGfoRtggMphK24jSan?width=1024&height=768&cropmode=none[/IMG] [IMG]https://dm2301files.storage.live.com/y4mAWk59j2ZJauHJ4C4xB3iekFodRwWJiuHBZViP_GWQj4kgTuAXHnn01NqiqtFiA0yDu6rfK96IMJHu08DR7On4UDWJlV1JiD5g7aOzr9-HgefgCCJbAuI44F7LIarY49GIRsO3KweZU25SVrg3WrmOt6XRfPkGBHPAqcNXACDUI2TF1EtD7I_Iivq6grlCE-1?width=1024&height=768&cropmode=none[/IMG] [IMG]https://dm2301files.storage.live.com/y4m1Ex0LvjlGBErYbTdFJL2uT_Exn6-0aiS7Jgot7JLj0fpAEMMoJz3YcGXgZ-epYREJeQwEi1axnKOj5OFKNuy6f-jlp-_zoujztehugNJ1kh7Al_dnsBHeXsYkBu1nRFuOL3lT-8Pb0st0Dp1AKEfpS_5HYHldlOcdRxXi5VH7o2QFMhxWuyGez5vRBrUAGqF?width=1024&height=768&cropmode=none[/IMG] The panoramic of those photos: [IMG]https://dm2301files.storage.live.com/y4mNtvWNtOQ5sZI0rLWY6YEFBLyNxynGRg1c3Npt_nmTdOnDVe-zA0pqHn6Z6Bvd-mYHWyTjXpU52aNR4imh-QMqvQ8E9nnr4x8XTYV-tWBL2j7MxWi7DI4JafrKQLjTjpz2CEJMScnOhfXkwYVXPKO1ugyktNaohWCDdNlQrWVpiRj4VB-LSGaujxRy58kGHac?width=1024&height=351&cropmode=none[/IMG] The round post in the middle of the H brace is actually about 18" behind it and is on my neighbor's place. My fence sits on my property line. [IMG]https://dm2301files.storage.live.com/y4mWDw6UKqrcLwLgBoeCnm3wwKM1ZDloCBuLdh52lfgzLc7Tc4C6qSHzLRukek54QMi58QRmGMRtlrJeL9IMTjPMFBZvV02enDVHbzAfT7fTGoVXKVGZNIl7ABmqreI7cy-RHeM-xNUu0c61-wK4IUa4g-WIwAUgENPzjadOmitAqoXz2tz59s9YI1FCg64TOh9?width=1024&height=768&cropmode=none[/IMG] Here's my question - should I just use my tractor (JD5525) in line with the fence to straighten the brace and then just add soil to fill the hole? Or should I splice the wire, straighten it and add another post to make it a double H brace? And finally, I'm hesitant to channel that water because of erosion. The sheet wash effect doesn't rip out the soil but I think a channel will soon become a ditch. [/QUOTE]
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