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<blockquote data-quote="JRGidaho`" data-source="post: 713168" data-attributes="member: 13410"><p>One of the problems using a 2% allocation is most people's cows are bigger than they think. You might think your cows are 1200 lb, but if they are really 1400 lb, when you think your giving them 2% they are actually getting only about 1.7% which is sub-maintenance requirement. Until you actually weigh your entire cow herd or an adequately representative sample, you don't know what they should be consuming.</p><p></p><p>I have been to many ranches where they told me their cows weighed such and such and then when we look at cull cow sale sheets they are 100 to 200 lb heavier than what they say their avergae is. Something about that just doesn't make sense.</p><p></p><p>I also think if I had the choice of weighing either just the calves or the cows at weaning, I would always choose to weigh the cows. Weaning weight has very little to do with profitability while winter feed costs have a rgeat deal to do with profitability. IMHO,It is more improtant to know what cows are going to eat than what calves weigh at weaning time.</p><p></p><p>With the cows here, we allocate 2.2% for dry pregnant cows on stockpiled pasture or hay and they usually put on weight thru the winter. They only time we go back and give them more is when bad weather rolls in or we see condition beginning to decline towards our target levels. </p><p></p><p>We monitor feeding waste and cow condition on an ongoing basis.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JRGidaho`, post: 713168, member: 13410"] One of the problems using a 2% allocation is most people's cows are bigger than they think. You might think your cows are 1200 lb, but if they are really 1400 lb, when you think your giving them 2% they are actually getting only about 1.7% which is sub-maintenance requirement. Until you actually weigh your entire cow herd or an adequately representative sample, you don't know what they should be consuming. I have been to many ranches where they told me their cows weighed such and such and then when we look at cull cow sale sheets they are 100 to 200 lb heavier than what they say their avergae is. Something about that just doesn't make sense. I also think if I had the choice of weighing either just the calves or the cows at weaning, I would always choose to weigh the cows. Weaning weight has very little to do with profitability while winter feed costs have a rgeat deal to do with profitability. IMHO,It is more improtant to know what cows are going to eat than what calves weigh at weaning time. With the cows here, we allocate 2.2% for dry pregnant cows on stockpiled pasture or hay and they usually put on weight thru the winter. They only time we go back and give them more is when bad weather rolls in or we see condition beginning to decline towards our target levels. We monitor feeding waste and cow condition on an ongoing basis. [/QUOTE]
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