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<blockquote data-quote="Alberta farmer" data-source="post: 610164" data-attributes="member: 8978"><p>I think what most people should realize is there no "perfect way" just whatever works for you? When I was younger I thought I knew it all...knew all the answers. One day I was telling my old uncle how he could make a lot more money if he would use a char bull on his hereford cows. He kind of laughed and said " Whatever gave you the idea I wanted to make a lot more money?" Now that kind of threw me because I thought everybody wanted to make a lot more money! I realized right then that everybody doesn't march to the same tune.</p><p>While it is admirable to try to help others by pointing out better ways(in your mind) we all need to realize people raise cattle for many different reasons and they achieve THEIR goals by many different methods...this could be said for life in general?</p><p>I do see a lot of logic in Tophands way of thinking, but that doesn't mean it will work for everyone. It certainly wouldn't work very well in Alberta or Saskatchewan. Maybe injecting poorer hay would work if the cost pencilled out, but hard to justify when our hay prices up here are so cheap.</p><p>Maybe the winter annuals thing works in his area, but I hope he realizes that they too have a cost?</p><p>I tried an aerator once on a hayfield and the only result I could see was the cost of renting it, but if it works for him with a 25% increase...then good for him!</p><p>I'm not so sure about him never having a "surprize birth" or never pulling a calf? Has he never had a malpresentation or a cow slip on ice or mud and calve early? If not he must be one of the luckiest guys around? It is a good thing to use bulls that have low birthrates(in my opinion) and manage your cows for fewer calving problems...but never help a cow in ten years? I find that truly amazing!</p><p>Maybe the best thing he could do to get his point across is try a little more humility and not come across as knowing everything? The older I get the more I realize I really don't know much. I like to talk to all sorts of people and I always believe everyone has something of value to teach me, whether it is the richest man around or the bum in the street.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alberta farmer, post: 610164, member: 8978"] I think what most people should realize is there no "perfect way" just whatever works for you? When I was younger I thought I knew it all...knew all the answers. One day I was telling my old uncle how he could make a lot more money if he would use a char bull on his hereford cows. He kind of laughed and said " Whatever gave you the idea I wanted to make a lot more money?" Now that kind of threw me because I thought everybody wanted to make a lot more money! I realized right then that everybody doesn't march to the same tune. While it is admirable to try to help others by pointing out better ways(in your mind) we all need to realize people raise cattle for many different reasons and they achieve THEIR goals by many different methods...this could be said for life in general? I do see a lot of logic in Tophands way of thinking, but that doesn't mean it will work for everyone. It certainly wouldn't work very well in Alberta or Saskatchewan. Maybe injecting poorer hay would work if the cost pencilled out, but hard to justify when our hay prices up here are so cheap. Maybe the winter annuals thing works in his area, but I hope he realizes that they too have a cost? I tried an aerator once on a hayfield and the only result I could see was the cost of renting it, but if it works for him with a 25% increase...then good for him! I'm not so sure about him never having a "surprize birth" or never pulling a calf? Has he never had a malpresentation or a cow slip on ice or mud and calve early? If not he must be one of the luckiest guys around? It is a good thing to use bulls that have low birthrates(in my opinion) and manage your cows for fewer calving problems...but never help a cow in ten years? I find that truly amazing! Maybe the best thing he could do to get his point across is try a little more humility and not come across as knowing everything? The older I get the more I realize I really don't know much. I like to talk to all sorts of people and I always believe everyone has something of value to teach me, whether it is the richest man around or the bum in the street. [/QUOTE]
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