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<blockquote data-quote="wbenchfarms" data-source="post: 1649408" data-attributes="member: 24758"><p>We can back the protein off as they finish, in fact, I would rather do that since my corn is cheaper than SBM. But, one thing that I have found is that with Longhorns it seems that a little higher protein helps them finish a little bigger than without. Not sure if it's due to the fact they are later maturing and I am trying to have them finished before 30 months, and the extra protein helps with some growth or not.</p><p></p><p>I have started leaving calves on the cows over the winter until they are older. I had been weaning in October, and with the way our weather has been the past couple of years, I always have to treat sick calves. This past year I treated 0. It does pull the cows down some, but it seems like I have better/bigger calves overall doing it this way. It's also easier so that I don't have to winter calves in a feedlot pen, I can leave them out on pasture. We make all our own hay, and sometimes quality isn't ideal. However, the cost of the hay and supplement we raise vs. buying better hay looks to be a wash.</p><p></p><p>I'm wondering if the hay in my ration is what is limiting my gains? I had someone else comment that rumen pH would be all over the place since it's a starch based diet, and that limit feeding hay may help. I'm also wondering if adding soyhull pellets back into the ration and pulling the hay would be a better option. Just trying to figure out what's going to give the best return.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wbenchfarms, post: 1649408, member: 24758"] We can back the protein off as they finish, in fact, I would rather do that since my corn is cheaper than SBM. But, one thing that I have found is that with Longhorns it seems that a little higher protein helps them finish a little bigger than without. Not sure if it's due to the fact they are later maturing and I am trying to have them finished before 30 months, and the extra protein helps with some growth or not. I have started leaving calves on the cows over the winter until they are older. I had been weaning in October, and with the way our weather has been the past couple of years, I always have to treat sick calves. This past year I treated 0. It does pull the cows down some, but it seems like I have better/bigger calves overall doing it this way. It's also easier so that I don't have to winter calves in a feedlot pen, I can leave them out on pasture. We make all our own hay, and sometimes quality isn't ideal. However, the cost of the hay and supplement we raise vs. buying better hay looks to be a wash. I'm wondering if the hay in my ration is what is limiting my gains? I had someone else comment that rumen pH would be all over the place since it's a starch based diet, and that limit feeding hay may help. I'm also wondering if adding soyhull pellets back into the ration and pulling the hay would be a better option. Just trying to figure out what's going to give the best return. [/QUOTE]
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