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<blockquote data-quote="inyati13" data-source="post: 1041306" data-attributes="member: 17767"><p>I knew you would ask about the weaning weight. And I could focus a lengthy discussion on that but I'll invite you back for a discussion on that later.</p><p></p><p>A. Question: Why 700-750 wean weight. I could keep the calves longer but I do not for two reasons:</p><p></p><p>1. There is always the risk of a loss. Struck by lightning, caught in a fence, die of a diseast, have to be treated. So, moral is; strike when the iron is hot and get your money.</p><p></p><p>2. Ok, if you kept them and they brought more money, the risk of loss might be worth the risk. <strong>But guess what</strong>, one of the connundrums of the cattle business is that as the feeder gets bigger the price per pound goes down. Why because that is the business the feeder lots are in and who wants to compete with them.</p><p></p><p>B. Question: Why or where did your 1200-1650# cow weight criteria.</p><p></p><p>I like a cow with enough capacity to carry and deliver a calf. On the other hand, I don't want anymore of the 1800 to 2000 pound cows like I started with. That big black cow I had was so wide, Mike Gifford did not want to risk putting her in the squeeze chute becasue I thought we might get her locked. He palpatated her in the alley way and we backed her out. Thus, I want cows big enough but not so big they are hard to handle. I think that range catches both ends.</p><p></p><p>C. Question: Have you fed out calves (grass or grain or both).</p><p></p><p>No. There is the same issue with risk. I plan to reach about 15 commercial cows by next year if I don't have culls. That is 15 calves. In statistics, the risk increases as the numbers go up but the % loss is less. In other words. There is a greater risk of a fatal loss in 15 calves than there is 5. But if you lose 1 out of 15 that is a smaller percentage than losing 1 out of 5. I think the risk reward balance is best set at getting calves to a 7 to 8 month weaning time. Then gather a group to limit efforts, fenceline wean them, get them on some grain, give them their last shots, and get them adapted to a feeder lot type lifestyle. Then when they leave you can say you did right by them.</p><p></p><p>D. Comment: a 2500 pound mature cow will stay fat and sassy in your conditions.</p><p></p><p>I agree and it is a fact.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="inyati13, post: 1041306, member: 17767"] I knew you would ask about the weaning weight. And I could focus a lengthy discussion on that but I'll invite you back for a discussion on that later. A. Question: Why 700-750 wean weight. I could keep the calves longer but I do not for two reasons: 1. There is always the risk of a loss. Struck by lightning, caught in a fence, die of a diseast, have to be treated. So, moral is; strike when the iron is hot and get your money. 2. Ok, if you kept them and they brought more money, the risk of loss might be worth the risk. [b]But guess what[/b], one of the connundrums of the cattle business is that as the feeder gets bigger the price per pound goes down. Why because that is the business the feeder lots are in and who wants to compete with them. B. Question: Why or where did your 1200-1650# cow weight criteria. I like a cow with enough capacity to carry and deliver a calf. On the other hand, I don't want anymore of the 1800 to 2000 pound cows like I started with. That big black cow I had was so wide, Mike Gifford did not want to risk putting her in the squeeze chute becasue I thought we might get her locked. He palpatated her in the alley way and we backed her out. Thus, I want cows big enough but not so big they are hard to handle. I think that range catches both ends. C. Question: Have you fed out calves (grass or grain or both). No. There is the same issue with risk. I plan to reach about 15 commercial cows by next year if I don't have culls. That is 15 calves. In statistics, the risk increases as the numbers go up but the % loss is less. In other words. There is a greater risk of a fatal loss in 15 calves than there is 5. But if you lose 1 out of 15 that is a smaller percentage than losing 1 out of 5. I think the risk reward balance is best set at getting calves to a 7 to 8 month weaning time. Then gather a group to limit efforts, fenceline wean them, get them on some grain, give them their last shots, and get them adapted to a feeder lot type lifestyle. Then when they leave you can say you did right by them. D. Comment: a 2500 pound mature cow will stay fat and sassy in your conditions. I agree and it is a fact. [/QUOTE]
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