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<blockquote data-quote="redcowsrule33" data-source="post: 781279" data-attributes="member: 8629"><p>This was my point earlier. It's not coincidence that the American Fullblood template corresponds so tightly to the Canadian template. They have far more flecks and the flecks in the US have not diverged significantly from the Canadian ones. When you are looking at the EPDs from a percentile basis, you are not comparing apples to apples since the average US simmental is not the same animal as the average Canadian simmental. It would be like comparing a US black angus to a US red angus. Fundamentally similar breeds when you look at their genetic origens but have taken divergent paths. You could never say that a black angus that is in the 50th percentile for YW is the same as a red angus in the 50th percentile. This is why they have gone through all the trouble to create conversions between breeds so you can compare apples to apples. This is why the EPDs of a US bull in Canada is so different to a US bull in the US EPD system. They are being compared to a totally different group of animals.</p><p></p><p>As has been said 5 bizillion times on this board, EPDs are a selection TOOL and should not be considered to be the sole basis of selection of any one individual. As for DNA, I am skeptical of that as well for being the holy grail of cattle breeding since just because you carry the DNA does not mean it is a) expressed or b) necessarily passed on in the right combination to the progeny. Just another TOOL.</p><p></p><p>Just out of benign curiosity, cattleman99, even though you don't like EPDs (and that is your right!) you must register your animals and they are generated anyway. I would like to see the kind of animals you like to raise and what their EPDs are. I'm not out to make fun of you, I am very interested to see how your methods are working out. Prove your point!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="redcowsrule33, post: 781279, member: 8629"] This was my point earlier. It's not coincidence that the American Fullblood template corresponds so tightly to the Canadian template. They have far more flecks and the flecks in the US have not diverged significantly from the Canadian ones. When you are looking at the EPDs from a percentile basis, you are not comparing apples to apples since the average US simmental is not the same animal as the average Canadian simmental. It would be like comparing a US black angus to a US red angus. Fundamentally similar breeds when you look at their genetic origens but have taken divergent paths. You could never say that a black angus that is in the 50th percentile for YW is the same as a red angus in the 50th percentile. This is why they have gone through all the trouble to create conversions between breeds so you can compare apples to apples. This is why the EPDs of a US bull in Canada is so different to a US bull in the US EPD system. They are being compared to a totally different group of animals. As has been said 5 bizillion times on this board, EPDs are a selection TOOL and should not be considered to be the sole basis of selection of any one individual. As for DNA, I am skeptical of that as well for being the holy grail of cattle breeding since just because you carry the DNA does not mean it is a) expressed or b) necessarily passed on in the right combination to the progeny. Just another TOOL. Just out of benign curiosity, cattleman99, even though you don't like EPDs (and that is your right!) you must register your animals and they are generated anyway. I would like to see the kind of animals you like to raise and what their EPDs are. I'm not out to make fun of you, I am very interested to see how your methods are working out. Prove your point! [/QUOTE]
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