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<blockquote data-quote="Frankie" data-source="post: 172384" data-attributes="member: 13"><p><strong>Jeanne said:</strong> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I asked the question: Are all Simmental EPDs reliable. You didn't answer, MikeC attacked me personally. I will defend Angus and CAB when they are bad mouthed, yes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's fine. It was put out by, it seems like, an officer of the Canadian Char Assn years ago that Chars started EPDs. I guess he was wrong, or my memory is faulty. And I thought Red Angus was the first breed to require performance information to get registration papers? I guess I should pay more attention to these bits of trivia. Sorry.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Jeanne, it will be very difficult for you to convince me that if I take a bald faced, red tigerstripe cow and breed her to an Breed X bull, the half blood bull calf will have reliable EPDs. Now if you can show me something from Cornell that shows me different, I'd be very interested in reading it. I can't wait to see what's coming out of Cornell. Please take time to post it here.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm sorry you took offense. I asked a question. You didn't respond, MikeC bashed me personally. Let's see something to back up your claim about accurate EPDs on halfbloods. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Angus doesn't issue EPDs on all their animals because we take EPDs very seriously. No, it's not a matter of whether the producer turns in data or not. That's not a requirement. They only issue EPDs when there's enough data on the database to provide what they consider reliable EPDs. AAA registered almost 325,000 calves last year. I'd guess most of them had EPDs, but not all and, IMO, they shouldn't have EPDs if there's not information available to make them reliable. </p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>I have to laugh at this. If someone refuses to use Angus because of my attitude, they're probably not serious about their cattle. I'm not bad mouthing your breed. I asked a question that apparently struck a nerve. You have bad mouthed Angus. The post that comes to mind quickly is your post about CAB not requireing any Angus genetics at all. Shocked! you were, as if that was a big dark, dirty secret the Angus Assn was hiding from the world when it's right there in the USDA specs.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm supposed to sit back and let this post go? Not likely. I didn't bash your breed. I asked a question about how reliable Simmental EPDs are. MikeC and now you jump on my case without providing anything to answer my question.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Frankie, post: 172384, member: 13"] [b]Jeanne said:[/b] I asked the question: Are all Simmental EPDs reliable. You didn't answer, MikeC attacked me personally. I will defend Angus and CAB when they are bad mouthed, yes. That's fine. It was put out by, it seems like, an officer of the Canadian Char Assn years ago that Chars started EPDs. I guess he was wrong, or my memory is faulty. And I thought Red Angus was the first breed to require performance information to get registration papers? I guess I should pay more attention to these bits of trivia. Sorry. Jeanne, it will be very difficult for you to convince me that if I take a bald faced, red tigerstripe cow and breed her to an Breed X bull, the half blood bull calf will have reliable EPDs. Now if you can show me something from Cornell that shows me different, I'd be very interested in reading it. I can't wait to see what's coming out of Cornell. Please take time to post it here. I'm sorry you took offense. I asked a question. You didn't respond, MikeC bashed me personally. Let's see something to back up your claim about accurate EPDs on halfbloods. Angus doesn't issue EPDs on all their animals because we take EPDs very seriously. No, it's not a matter of whether the producer turns in data or not. That's not a requirement. They only issue EPDs when there's enough data on the database to provide what they consider reliable EPDs. AAA registered almost 325,000 calves last year. I'd guess most of them had EPDs, but not all and, IMO, they shouldn't have EPDs if there's not information available to make them reliable. I have to laugh at this. If someone refuses to use Angus because of my attitude, they're probably not serious about their cattle. I'm not bad mouthing your breed. I asked a question that apparently struck a nerve. You have bad mouthed Angus. The post that comes to mind quickly is your post about CAB not requireing any Angus genetics at all. Shocked! you were, as if that was a big dark, dirty secret the Angus Assn was hiding from the world when it's right there in the USDA specs. I'm supposed to sit back and let this post go? Not likely. I didn't bash your breed. I asked a question about how reliable Simmental EPDs are. MikeC and now you jump on my case without providing anything to answer my question. [/QUOTE]
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