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<blockquote data-quote="Frankie" data-source="post: 171715" data-attributes="member: 13"><p>Go on, Mike, get it out of your system. You're bashing Angus at every opportunity, here's a chance to really let go. Calling names doesn't make you smart, tough or right.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>We all know which breed made EPDs the important part of the industry that they are. When we started raising Angus we were laughed at for being so stupid to believe numbers could help someone raise cattle. But the Angus Assn belived in EPDs, promoted them, and showed they worked for commercial cattlemen. Because of that most every other breed has been forced to compute EPDs. Yes, that's my opinion. If you can show I'm wrong, please do so. I can learn.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The input data is what makes some breed's EPDs less reliable, in my opinion. The Angus Assn has millions of records on their database. You will have a hard time convincing me that a half blood animal's EPDs will be as reliable as a purebred animal. But if you think you have some data, not from a breed assn, that might change my mind, put it out here.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No. I assume all breeders are putting accurate data out there. The problem lies, IMO, with accepting data from half blood animals right alongside purebred animals. We see lots of articles posted here about heterosis. So a crossbred calf, half breed X half breed Y, will possibly outperform a straight bred breed X calf. I have doubts that the EPDs on either of those animals is reliable, the crossbred calf because it's a crossbred animal with no data in it's background, the straightbred calf because the data used to create his EPDs includes crossbred data.</p></blockquote><p></p><p>First, hating me or my breed is a waste of time. Neither of us is going away soon. Most people that don't like the Angus breed feel that way because it's successful. Some people would like to go on with the cattle business as it used to be.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Frankie, post: 171715, member: 13"] Go on, Mike, get it out of your system. You're bashing Angus at every opportunity, here's a chance to really let go. Calling names doesn't make you smart, tough or right. We all know which breed made EPDs the important part of the industry that they are. When we started raising Angus we were laughed at for being so stupid to believe numbers could help someone raise cattle. But the Angus Assn belived in EPDs, promoted them, and showed they worked for commercial cattlemen. Because of that most every other breed has been forced to compute EPDs. Yes, that's my opinion. If you can show I'm wrong, please do so. I can learn. The input data is what makes some breed's EPDs less reliable, in my opinion. The Angus Assn has millions of records on their database. You will have a hard time convincing me that a half blood animal's EPDs will be as reliable as a purebred animal. But if you think you have some data, not from a breed assn, that might change my mind, put it out here. No. I assume all breeders are putting accurate data out there. The problem lies, IMO, with accepting data from half blood animals right alongside purebred animals. We see lots of articles posted here about heterosis. So a crossbred calf, half breed X half breed Y, will possibly outperform a straight bred breed X calf. I have doubts that the EPDs on either of those animals is reliable, the crossbred calf because it's a crossbred animal with no data in it's background, the straightbred calf because the data used to create his EPDs includes crossbred data. [/quote] First, hating me or my breed is a waste of time. Neither of us is going away soon. Most people that don't like the Angus breed feel that way because it's successful. Some people would like to go on with the cattle business as it used to be. [/QUOTE]
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