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<blockquote data-quote="cotton1" data-source="post: 1383879" data-attributes="member: 14689"><p>Firesweep- Just curious how you measure bw? I use a scale and sling, a friend uses a tape. We have conversation about the two from time to time. Just by the picture I think that calf weighs out way more than 60 some odd pounds, more like 80 couple. But that's from a picture and what I like to call truck window weighing-just my guess from looking at a picture.</p><p></p><p>No intent to criticize, just to learn and reference in conversation about how to measure calfs bw. My personal Birth weights are typically higher than most even on the same AI bull.It is possible that the scale I have been using is not accurate, or the way I hold it up etc.</p><p></p><p>I think that you are spot on in your assessment. The mama cow contributes 1/2 of the genetic makeup of the calf. Too many of us registered breeders seem to assume that the old commercial breeders idea of using a better than average bull on barely average cows will produce a above average calf. I have tried it both ways, and am sure that the mama plays a big role in using EPDs. A good average of the parents is what I base my expectations on with my calfs.</p><p></p><p>Great point you are making in this thread. Hats off.</p><p></p><p>Cotton1</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cotton1, post: 1383879, member: 14689"] Firesweep- Just curious how you measure bw? I use a scale and sling, a friend uses a tape. We have conversation about the two from time to time. Just by the picture I think that calf weighs out way more than 60 some odd pounds, more like 80 couple. But that's from a picture and what I like to call truck window weighing-just my guess from looking at a picture. No intent to criticize, just to learn and reference in conversation about how to measure calfs bw. My personal Birth weights are typically higher than most even on the same AI bull.It is possible that the scale I have been using is not accurate, or the way I hold it up etc. I think that you are spot on in your assessment. The mama cow contributes 1/2 of the genetic makeup of the calf. Too many of us registered breeders seem to assume that the old commercial breeders idea of using a better than average bull on barely average cows will produce a above average calf. I have tried it both ways, and am sure that the mama plays a big role in using EPDs. A good average of the parents is what I base my expectations on with my calfs. Great point you are making in this thread. Hats off. Cotton1 [/QUOTE]
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