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<blockquote data-quote="novatech" data-source="post: 708767" data-attributes="member: 5494"><p>I do not blame the illegals for wanting to come to this country. If I were in their shoes I would do the same. I do not blame the employers for hiring them as they must be able to find employees that will work. I believe that Social Security would have been broke years ago if it were not for the illegals paying in and not receiving any of the benefits back.</p><p>I believe the US made a deal with Mexico not to enforce immigration laws. The US sent a great deal of US manufacturing to Mexico. The borders were opened for transport of Mexican goods transported by there truckers into this country. A multi billion dollar highway was proposed to be built that would be beneficial mostly for Mexican transport of goods. The illegals enjoy free medicine in this country. If their wives make it across then their children, born here, will automatically become US citizens. The children go into our school system where our teachers are required to learn Spanish to teach them. They, illegals, can buy property in the US and the banks loan them the money. They have found them to be very creditable. </p><p>So what is the government doing about it. Well they gave a contract to an aircraft manufacturer to build a fence on the boarder. The result of this is that the people that make a living getting these people across the boarder went up in price. From $150 t0 $2500 and sale on wire cutters have increased. Of course Boing is making a lot of money off of it. It is nothing but a placebo to help pacify the American public. The illegals look at the fence as a joke. The US government decided to fine employers for hiring illegals. They really did not do much enforcement. Just another placebo. The illegals went out and obtained fake papers. This satisfies everyone and makes for another guy getting rich making up the documents. As far as the IRS is concerned, all they want is the money. They know they will never have to give a refund.</p><p>What has happened recently is that all the illegals that do not have legitimate papers will no longer be able to renew their drivers license, in Texas. Other states will probably follow. Most will say this will be great. Maybe, but now we will have untested drivers on the road with no insurance. So our uninsured motorist coverage will surely increase. With no license they cannot get insurance. With no insurance they cannot get financing. With no financing there will sure be a lot of cars hit the market. I am anxious to see how the illegals handle this new law.</p><p>I am not so much against them coming to this country to work. I am against them having the same rights and privileges enjoyed by US citizens. And I certainly am against the children becoming citizens when they are born here. I do not believe they should have the same protection under the law.</p><p>I for one have been on both ends of the illegal worker effect. At one time I made a good living in several of the construction trades. I was put out of business because the illegals took the work from me by doing it cheaper, construction work. Now the legal (I believe to mostly children of the illegals) Mexicans have taken over most of the construction trades and make a handsome living doing it. Now I must hire legal, as far as the papers I see, Mexicans to work because they are all I can get.</p><p>Most of the illegals are good people just trying to feed their family. They are not stupid. They learn how to take advantage of the American give away programs very quickly.</p><p>I apologize for the rambling but I feel that there is just a lot more to the problems and benefits with the illegals.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="novatech, post: 708767, member: 5494"] I do not blame the illegals for wanting to come to this country. If I were in their shoes I would do the same. I do not blame the employers for hiring them as they must be able to find employees that will work. I believe that Social Security would have been broke years ago if it were not for the illegals paying in and not receiving any of the benefits back. I believe the US made a deal with Mexico not to enforce immigration laws. The US sent a great deal of US manufacturing to Mexico. The borders were opened for transport of Mexican goods transported by there truckers into this country. A multi billion dollar highway was proposed to be built that would be beneficial mostly for Mexican transport of goods. The illegals enjoy free medicine in this country. If their wives make it across then their children, born here, will automatically become US citizens. The children go into our school system where our teachers are required to learn Spanish to teach them. They, illegals, can buy property in the US and the banks loan them the money. They have found them to be very creditable. So what is the government doing about it. Well they gave a contract to an aircraft manufacturer to build a fence on the boarder. The result of this is that the people that make a living getting these people across the boarder went up in price. From $150 t0 $2500 and sale on wire cutters have increased. Of course Boing is making a lot of money off of it. It is nothing but a placebo to help pacify the American public. The illegals look at the fence as a joke. The US government decided to fine employers for hiring illegals. They really did not do much enforcement. Just another placebo. The illegals went out and obtained fake papers. This satisfies everyone and makes for another guy getting rich making up the documents. As far as the IRS is concerned, all they want is the money. They know they will never have to give a refund. What has happened recently is that all the illegals that do not have legitimate papers will no longer be able to renew their drivers license, in Texas. Other states will probably follow. Most will say this will be great. Maybe, but now we will have untested drivers on the road with no insurance. So our uninsured motorist coverage will surely increase. With no license they cannot get insurance. With no insurance they cannot get financing. With no financing there will sure be a lot of cars hit the market. I am anxious to see how the illegals handle this new law. I am not so much against them coming to this country to work. I am against them having the same rights and privileges enjoyed by US citizens. And I certainly am against the children becoming citizens when they are born here. I do not believe they should have the same protection under the law. I for one have been on both ends of the illegal worker effect. At one time I made a good living in several of the construction trades. I was put out of business because the illegals took the work from me by doing it cheaper, construction work. Now the legal (I believe to mostly children of the illegals) Mexicans have taken over most of the construction trades and make a handsome living doing it. Now I must hire legal, as far as the papers I see, Mexicans to work because they are all I can get. Most of the illegals are good people just trying to feed their family. They are not stupid. They learn how to take advantage of the American give away programs very quickly. I apologize for the rambling but I feel that there is just a lot more to the problems and benefits with the illegals. [/QUOTE]
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