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Embryos.....Worth the cost?
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<blockquote data-quote="pdfangus" data-source="post: 823970" data-attributes="member: 6543"><p>hoss....</p><p>only way to answer that question for your herd is to try.</p><p></p><p>I did it ten years ago....</p><p>angus....bought five embryos from one flush from a big name local breeder who has a lot of bulls in studs.</p><p>I did not buy his best as i could not afford.....bought from a good proven cow and good proven bull.</p><p>been ten years so I am not remembering cost so well.</p><p>Cost more for the vet clinic to come and put them in than I paid for the embryos. also the cost of drugs and labor for setup of recips. Have to do a lot of recips to make sure you have enough.</p><p>but I got 100% settling and calf crop. all were heifers. I had hoped for a great bull.</p><p>I synced a bunch of recips and he chose the best five after palpation.</p><p>I still have one of those cows and she has been very good. culled one for production issues and sold three when we sold the cows.</p><p>The next year we flushed two of our own cows.</p><p>had good sucess with flushing and settling. did not have enough good recips ready so froze some. lost those when a tank went bad.</p><p>In both cases regular AI calves out of our cows were the top performers over the embryo calves.</p><p>I decided that instead of contributing to the embrologists yatch fund annually I would spend my limited dollars on the best AI bulls I could find.</p><p></p><p>now I was fifteen years into my own breeding at the time and unknowingly had built a pretty good herd of cows. Well the top half was good. I lacked depth and consistency at that time. But then the top of my herd was competing well at the test stations.</p><p></p><p>since then my son has learned how to put embryos in. If I ever bought again I would have him do it at much less cost than having an ET Vet drive two hours to me. Local vet now has songram to sex pregnancies at 60 days as well so cost are lower now.</p><p></p><p>putting commercial cows that milk to an ET use is a good step. At that time we used several commercial cows as well as some reg cows who could milk but who were not, shall we say, breed model cows.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pdfangus, post: 823970, member: 6543"] hoss.... only way to answer that question for your herd is to try. I did it ten years ago.... angus....bought five embryos from one flush from a big name local breeder who has a lot of bulls in studs. I did not buy his best as i could not afford.....bought from a good proven cow and good proven bull. been ten years so I am not remembering cost so well. Cost more for the vet clinic to come and put them in than I paid for the embryos. also the cost of drugs and labor for setup of recips. Have to do a lot of recips to make sure you have enough. but I got 100% settling and calf crop. all were heifers. I had hoped for a great bull. I synced a bunch of recips and he chose the best five after palpation. I still have one of those cows and she has been very good. culled one for production issues and sold three when we sold the cows. The next year we flushed two of our own cows. had good sucess with flushing and settling. did not have enough good recips ready so froze some. lost those when a tank went bad. In both cases regular AI calves out of our cows were the top performers over the embryo calves. I decided that instead of contributing to the embrologists yatch fund annually I would spend my limited dollars on the best AI bulls I could find. now I was fifteen years into my own breeding at the time and unknowingly had built a pretty good herd of cows. Well the top half was good. I lacked depth and consistency at that time. But then the top of my herd was competing well at the test stations. since then my son has learned how to put embryos in. If I ever bought again I would have him do it at much less cost than having an ET Vet drive two hours to me. Local vet now has songram to sex pregnancies at 60 days as well so cost are lower now. putting commercial cows that milk to an ET use is a good step. At that time we used several commercial cows as well as some reg cows who could milk but who were not, shall we say, breed model cows. [/QUOTE]
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