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<blockquote data-quote="DOC HARRIS" data-source="post: 502592" data-attributes="member: 1683"><p>ROB-</p><p></p><p>As with all 'investigative' testings, or experimental quantifiability, there are many sub-liminal factors which enter into the determination of viable and definable results. We wish it were not so, but that is the name of all games relating to achieving "Positive and Reliable Results." </p><p></p><p>I think that your idea about the determination of "easy keepers" is one which should be examined <strong><em>in specific detail</em></strong>, because, in my opinion, that makes more sense than a lot of the seemingly senseless feeding facts that pervade our information sources from time to time. Are you certain that MARC or some of the Universities are NOT doing this at this time? I don't really know. It would be so much easier to have hard, solid facts and figures to 'plug' into our feeding protocols - so that we could all live happily everafter" :clap: The genetics of all of our beef animals are so complex, that it seems to me that the RFI measurements can make a large impact on arriving at some <strong>standards</strong> by which a Breeder can use - with his OWN animals, and his OWN home-raised forage and purchased supplementation and Minerals, if necessary, just as environmental influences affect how different animals perform in different parts of the country (world).</p><p></p><p>One would think that if an animal can convert feed test rations into pounds of gain, that same animal <strong>should</strong> excell in the pasture - but that needs to be determined convincingly - and untimately be predictable by way of EPD's. That seems more logical to me than some of the "out-in-space" differences some of the breeds are coming up with!</p><p></p><p>The important factor which we must all bear in mind is: Single trait selection will NOT work because many other factors are blended and mixed with the overall Genetic soup! The trick here is being able to select the trait you are seeking - and concurrently select for the other positive characteristics at the same time without "throwing out the baby with the bath water" - and the rubber ducky also!</p><p></p><p>I agree with your hypothesis, and encourage you to hang in there! Great idea!</p><p></p><p>DOC HARRIS</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DOC HARRIS, post: 502592, member: 1683"] ROB- As with all 'investigative' testings, or experimental quantifiability, there are many sub-liminal factors which enter into the determination of viable and definable results. We wish it were not so, but that is the name of all games relating to achieving "Positive and Reliable Results." I think that your idea about the determination of "easy keepers" is one which should be examined [b][i]in specific detail[/i][/b], because, in my opinion, that makes more sense than a lot of the seemingly senseless feeding facts that pervade our information sources from time to time. Are you certain that MARC or some of the Universities are NOT doing this at this time? I don't really know. It would be so much easier to have hard, solid facts and figures to 'plug' into our feeding protocols - so that we could all live happily everafter" :clap: The genetics of all of our beef animals are so complex, that it seems to me that the RFI measurements can make a large impact on arriving at some [b]standards[/b] by which a Breeder can use - with his OWN animals, and his OWN home-raised forage and purchased supplementation and Minerals, if necessary, just as environmental influences affect how different animals perform in different parts of the country (world). One would think that if an animal can convert feed test rations into pounds of gain, that same animal [b]should[/b] excell in the pasture - but that needs to be determined convincingly - and untimately be predictable by way of EPD's. That seems more logical to me than some of the "out-in-space" differences some of the breeds are coming up with! The important factor which we must all bear in mind is: Single trait selection will NOT work because many other factors are blended and mixed with the overall Genetic soup! The trick here is being able to select the trait you are seeking - and concurrently select for the other positive characteristics at the same time without "throwing out the baby with the bath water" - and the rubber ducky also! I agree with your hypothesis, and encourage you to hang in there! Great idea! DOC HARRIS [/QUOTE]
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