Menu
Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
New media
New media comments
New profile posts
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Members
Current visitors
New profile posts
Search profile posts
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles and first posts only
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Forums
Cattle Boards
Beginners Board
Do red hides get discounted?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Help Support CattleToday:
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Warren Allison" data-source="post: 1782782" data-attributes="member: 40587"><p>Yes. Angus beef brings $3 more than "just beef" at the supermarket. Packers charge retailers $1.50 a lb more for that angus beef, and pay feedlots 75 cents a pound more for back calves they are pretty sure will make certified Angus status. Feed lots tell buyers they can go uo to a certain price per lb for black calves that may attain certified Angus cattle, so they will bid higher on these black calves at the auction. They will $.30 cents more a lb because they will get 75 cents more per lb at the packers. People will pay more for a loud paint, or a Palomino ( talking about the general public, not knowledgeable horsemen) than they will a good blood bay with no white. Nothing wrong or illegal or immoraal at all about people preferring black cattle or palomino horses.</p><p></p><p>The amount of premium paid, if any, depends on where the sale is. Down here..there are no packers, feed lots, thus no "buyers" buying trailer truck loads of catle. Most of the sale banrs have conditioning lots, and the owners will buy calves, and vaccinate and worn, etc, steer the bull caalves and out them on feed for a while. Usually that period of time is ever how long it takes them to accumulate a truck load of like size and kind. In that odd spot of the country where Oregon Dave lives..where Charlais and red catte sell for more than black ( he says). th eb;ach calves may not bring any or very litte premium. In a state where twice a year, 100000 0r so calves are sent to market twice a year, and there are probably more black calves sold than there are people in the state, then there wouldn't be a need to pay a premium. Now in the corn belt, where the lots are, a buyer might have oders for 8 truckoands a week--6 certified Angus candidate and the other 2 just prime or choice beef, then hell yeah there will be a big spread. You have multi buyers there needing that many truckloads of black a week, then they gonna bid like hell to try to get their orders filled, They bid till the all but one drops out because it got too high. ECON 101...supply and demand. These yahoos on here wanting the Angus programs to end and want everyone to raise red or white cattle to "show them evil angus breeders" are actually helping people wwho raise blacks. If I raised them I would hope to hell people flooded the market with red $ white calves and not as many black calves went to market. Then instead of a 20-30 vent premium, I would get $1 premium per lb. What they do not comprehend, is that if TRVLR succeeded in suing AAA, (was who I think he wanted to sure),and got them to pull their CAB program, or Lee succeeded in getting Congress to pass a law saying it was illegal to pay more for a black cow than any other, they will <strong>not</strong> get 1 penny more for their red or white cows. They will just get that same amount for their back calves!! COSTING them money! </p><p></p><p>Yes, that is right. I explained why above. Should be a 20-30 cents/lb more paid for the black load, if both trailer loads would score choice or prime. If both would score select or lower, then no, there would be no premiums paid on the blacks. Not all black calves bring that premium.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Warren Allison, post: 1782782, member: 40587"] Yes. Angus beef brings $3 more than "just beef" at the supermarket. Packers charge retailers $1.50 a lb more for that angus beef, and pay feedlots 75 cents a pound more for back calves they are pretty sure will make certified Angus status. Feed lots tell buyers they can go uo to a certain price per lb for black calves that may attain certified Angus cattle, so they will bid higher on these black calves at the auction. They will $.30 cents more a lb because they will get 75 cents more per lb at the packers. People will pay more for a loud paint, or a Palomino ( talking about the general public, not knowledgeable horsemen) than they will a good blood bay with no white. Nothing wrong or illegal or immoraal at all about people preferring black cattle or palomino horses. The amount of premium paid, if any, depends on where the sale is. Down here..there are no packers, feed lots, thus no "buyers" buying trailer truck loads of catle. Most of the sale banrs have conditioning lots, and the owners will buy calves, and vaccinate and worn, etc, steer the bull caalves and out them on feed for a while. Usually that period of time is ever how long it takes them to accumulate a truck load of like size and kind. In that odd spot of the country where Oregon Dave lives..where Charlais and red catte sell for more than black ( he says). th eb;ach calves may not bring any or very litte premium. In a state where twice a year, 100000 0r so calves are sent to market twice a year, and there are probably more black calves sold than there are people in the state, then there wouldn't be a need to pay a premium. Now in the corn belt, where the lots are, a buyer might have oders for 8 truckoands a week--6 certified Angus candidate and the other 2 just prime or choice beef, then hell yeah there will be a big spread. You have multi buyers there needing that many truckloads of black a week, then they gonna bid like hell to try to get their orders filled, They bid till the all but one drops out because it got too high. ECON 101...supply and demand. These yahoos on here wanting the Angus programs to end and want everyone to raise red or white cattle to "show them evil angus breeders" are actually helping people wwho raise blacks. If I raised them I would hope to hell people flooded the market with red $ white calves and not as many black calves went to market. Then instead of a 20-30 vent premium, I would get $1 premium per lb. What they do not comprehend, is that if TRVLR succeeded in suing AAA, (was who I think he wanted to sure),and got them to pull their CAB program, or Lee succeeded in getting Congress to pass a law saying it was illegal to pay more for a black cow than any other, they will [B]not[/B] get 1 penny more for their red or white cows. They will just get that same amount for their back calves!! COSTING them money! Yes, that is right. I explained why above. Should be a 20-30 cents/lb more paid for the black load, if both trailer loads would score choice or prime. If both would score select or lower, then no, there would be no premiums paid on the blacks. Not all black calves bring that premium. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Forums
Cattle Boards
Beginners Board
Do red hides get discounted?
Top