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<blockquote data-quote="Travlr" data-source="post: 1782300" data-attributes="member: 42463"><p>I dearly wish you would use the reply feature so everyone can see what you are taking exception to.</p><p></p><p>I said, "One thing I didn't anticipate was that Simmental and Limousin and others would pollute their gene pool with angus blood to compete, but who knows, it may have invigorated stagnant lines in the various breeds. At some point we'll see."</p><p></p><p>Correct me if I'm wrong... but where did Simmental get their black genetics (which you acknowledge)? And before there were black Simmental... was there something wrong with them regarding their color? And I congratulate the breeds using angus genetics to black their cattle. It's a harsh fact that this is the way we have to compete against a terrible but brilliant marketing strategy to sell angus bulls. And I agree that black Sims are superior cattle in their own ways, just as other black cattle are in theirs... including angus. And... I would buy a Simmental (or other homozygous black breed) before I'd buy an angus, and I've said this several times. So I'm not sure where your beef is coming from.</p><p></p><p>But just to be clear... angus were used and angus genetics are now in the breeds using them to be black. I'm not aware of any filter to get a dominant black gene from an angus without also getting a bunch of other genes to tag along. I'm pretty sure you and other breeders are doing a great job, but reality is. The pollution (I use that word, you may find it objectionable) of other breeds may be minimal and never be problematic, but angus have some issues that may not be filtered by good intentions. We'll see.</p><p></p><p>In the meantime I will promote the use of your bulls and other black-bulls-not-angus because I believe the CAB program is damaging to the industry as a whole. This is not a perfect solution, but in the real world the best solutions are not perfect and if you have a better solution to the CAB debacle please feel free to inform me.</p><p></p><p>Do you have any concerns about the DNA testing that black angus (and probably red, so combined) will soon be using to differentiate your product from theirs at the sale barn?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Travlr, post: 1782300, member: 42463"] I dearly wish you would use the reply feature so everyone can see what you are taking exception to. I said, "One thing I didn't anticipate was that Simmental and Limousin and others would pollute their gene pool with angus blood to compete, but who knows, it may have invigorated stagnant lines in the various breeds. At some point we'll see." Correct me if I'm wrong... but where did Simmental get their black genetics (which you acknowledge)? And before there were black Simmental... was there something wrong with them regarding their color? And I congratulate the breeds using angus genetics to black their cattle. It's a harsh fact that this is the way we have to compete against a terrible but brilliant marketing strategy to sell angus bulls. And I agree that black Sims are superior cattle in their own ways, just as other black cattle are in theirs... including angus. And... I would buy a Simmental (or other homozygous black breed) before I'd buy an angus, and I've said this several times. So I'm not sure where your beef is coming from. But just to be clear... angus were used and angus genetics are now in the breeds using them to be black. I'm not aware of any filter to get a dominant black gene from an angus without also getting a bunch of other genes to tag along. I'm pretty sure you and other breeders are doing a great job, but reality is. The pollution (I use that word, you may find it objectionable) of other breeds may be minimal and never be problematic, but angus have some issues that may not be filtered by good intentions. We'll see. In the meantime I will promote the use of your bulls and other black-bulls-not-angus because I believe the CAB program is damaging to the industry as a whole. This is not a perfect solution, but in the real world the best solutions are not perfect and if you have a better solution to the CAB debacle please feel free to inform me. Do you have any concerns about the DNA testing that black angus (and probably red, so combined) will soon be using to differentiate your product from theirs at the sale barn? [/QUOTE]
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