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<blockquote data-quote="Sthrncwboy" data-source="post: 1782235" data-attributes="member: 42970"><p>They are great cattle. They are Angus. Red Brangus are even better down here like Brangus do better than black Angus. The USDA just released a directive saying they will approve a certified Angus program allowing red angus beef to be sold as certified Angus. All a program has to do, is draw up new specs outlining how proof is to be determined, and they will amend the rules of that certified angus program, and release new guidelines to their inspectors. Many certified angus programs already accept red angus, but it has to be registered red angus, and registration papers have to accompany the animal through the slaughter process. Not many people raise registered cattle just to be slaughtered , though. And as a feedlot buyer, you usually don't go to registered sales to get up a truckload to send to the feedlots. They would have to send the papers for each animal with the contract trucker who hauls them, and have some way to identify which papers belong to which steer. and the feedlot would have to keep up with all of this for the months they feed them, through the shipping process, and after they get to the processors. I don't know how they can come up with guidelines for certifying a steer is red angus, though, except with developing a quick DNA analysis. You dang sure couldn't by just amending the rules to say they have to be <em>either</em> 50% black <em>or 50% </em>red, plus the REA, marbling etc. Hell, you could just sell Herefords as certified Angus! Reckon Limousine, Simmental etc, would start trying ti turn their cattle back red?!!! I guess the poor ole Charolais would STILL be left out. </p><p></p><p>We rope with a guy who is a district manager for Ingles. I think he said he has 6 stores. He said that prior to the Biden recession these last 2 years, certified Angus made up about 80% of their beef purchase. just "beef made up 15%, and "certified grass fed" made up about 5%. With this recession and rising inflation, he said now 40% of their beef is labeled "beef" and 40% is certified Angus. The rest is grass-fed and here lately, Waygu. Depending on the cut, certified Angus is $2-$3 a pound more. which is why packers pay more for it, thus feedlots pay more for it, thus buyers pay more for calves that potentially could achieve certified Angus qualification. </p><p></p><p> I know that there are some idiots on here that think if the certified Angus programs were gone, that they will then be paid CAB premiums for their other color calves. No, they will just lose the premium for their black calves, costing themselves lost revenue. .One looney tunes on here said they should file a class action lawsuit against AAA, saying that the Certified Angus programs have caused other breeds to lose genetic diversity! Another one (that tries to hide his ignorance by using "fancy" language to try to fool people into thinking he is knowledgeable), is suggesting <strong>Congressional Legislation to <em>force</em> buyers to pay CAB premiums for non-black cattle!! </strong>Think about how stupid that sounds.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sthrncwboy, post: 1782235, member: 42970"] They are great cattle. They are Angus. Red Brangus are even better down here like Brangus do better than black Angus. The USDA just released a directive saying they will approve a certified Angus program allowing red angus beef to be sold as certified Angus. All a program has to do, is draw up new specs outlining how proof is to be determined, and they will amend the rules of that certified angus program, and release new guidelines to their inspectors. Many certified angus programs already accept red angus, but it has to be registered red angus, and registration papers have to accompany the animal through the slaughter process. Not many people raise registered cattle just to be slaughtered , though. And as a feedlot buyer, you usually don't go to registered sales to get up a truckload to send to the feedlots. They would have to send the papers for each animal with the contract trucker who hauls them, and have some way to identify which papers belong to which steer. and the feedlot would have to keep up with all of this for the months they feed them, through the shipping process, and after they get to the processors. I don't know how they can come up with guidelines for certifying a steer is red angus, though, except with developing a quick DNA analysis. You dang sure couldn't by just amending the rules to say they have to be [I]either[/I] 50% black [I]or 50% [/I]red, plus the REA, marbling etc. Hell, you could just sell Herefords as certified Angus! Reckon Limousine, Simmental etc, would start trying ti turn their cattle back red?!!! I guess the poor ole Charolais would STILL be left out. We rope with a guy who is a district manager for Ingles. I think he said he has 6 stores. He said that prior to the Biden recession these last 2 years, certified Angus made up about 80% of their beef purchase. just "beef made up 15%, and "certified grass fed" made up about 5%. With this recession and rising inflation, he said now 40% of their beef is labeled "beef" and 40% is certified Angus. The rest is grass-fed and here lately, Waygu. Depending on the cut, certified Angus is $2-$3 a pound more. which is why packers pay more for it, thus feedlots pay more for it, thus buyers pay more for calves that potentially could achieve certified Angus qualification. I know that there are some idiots on here that think if the certified Angus programs were gone, that they will then be paid CAB premiums for their other color calves. No, they will just lose the premium for their black calves, costing themselves lost revenue. .One looney tunes on here said they should file a class action lawsuit against AAA, saying that the Certified Angus programs have caused other breeds to lose genetic diversity! Another one (that tries to hide his ignorance by using "fancy" language to try to fool people into thinking he is knowledgeable), is suggesting [B]Congressional Legislation to [I]force[/I] buyers to pay CAB premiums for non-black cattle!! [/B]Think about how stupid that sounds. [/QUOTE]
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