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<blockquote data-quote="SPH" data-source="post: 1404879" data-attributes="member: 20580"><p>It's an unfortunate situation and I agree with Fire Sweep Ranch, go back to the seller and try to work out some sort of compensation. Either a refund or comparable replacement is what any reputable seedstock seller should provide as you didn't get what you thought you were buying. I would think that most guys who sell seedstock would feel bad and want to make good on a deal if something like this happened to them. I wouldn't try to threaten or damage their name through word of mouth, have an open and civil conversation about this situation and see if they will work with you to satisfy you. If they are unreasonable and won't compensate you for it then you have reason to share your opinions on your bad experience but I think that would be the last thing to do not the first if you want the seller to made good on the deal. The last thing a fair and reputable seedstock seller wants is bad word of mouth so unless they don't care about being ethical and fair they probably would want to work with you to make sure you don't have a reason to bad mouth them.</p><p></p><p>It makes you wonder how much has slipped through the cracks in the past when DNA testing was not required and so common as it is today. I do believe that most of these incidents where the DNA doesn't match up was unintentional or mistakes made somewhere in the process of identifying the parentage or handling of the samples. We all know that bulls and cows can sometimes find their ways into pastures they aren't supposed to be in or in a large operation 2 cows calving at the same time might claim the wrong calf. Odds are it is bound to happen once in awhile with all the various scenarios that are possible.</p><p></p><p>We went through something similar to this once on some semen we bought in the 90's from a VERY reputable breeder who has been in the business for multiple generations now. Went to register the calves we had and found out the bull had not been certified for AI yet. The breeder went through the AI certification process and found out the parentage did not match up. Sire was right but dam was not, well they only run about 400-500 cows and submitted samples on any possibilities but couldn't find a match so they assumed the dam may have been a cow they no longer had. Well now we had some really nice yearling heifers we could not register and another group of calves by this bull on the ground that would be nothing but commercial females in our registered purebred herd which set us back 2 years of calves on some of our top cows. We were disappointed that they weren't able to match up the parentage as they were some very nice calves we had by that bull. The breeder worked with us and purchased all the females sired by their bull from us at a fair price and took them back to use in their commercial herd. We've even done some business with them since then and have no hard feelings about it since it was an unintentional mistake which they took responsibility for and provided compensation for it. That's why they have been in the business as long as they have been and their cattle sells well because the do things the right way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SPH, post: 1404879, member: 20580"] It's an unfortunate situation and I agree with Fire Sweep Ranch, go back to the seller and try to work out some sort of compensation. Either a refund or comparable replacement is what any reputable seedstock seller should provide as you didn't get what you thought you were buying. I would think that most guys who sell seedstock would feel bad and want to make good on a deal if something like this happened to them. I wouldn't try to threaten or damage their name through word of mouth, have an open and civil conversation about this situation and see if they will work with you to satisfy you. If they are unreasonable and won't compensate you for it then you have reason to share your opinions on your bad experience but I think that would be the last thing to do not the first if you want the seller to made good on the deal. The last thing a fair and reputable seedstock seller wants is bad word of mouth so unless they don't care about being ethical and fair they probably would want to work with you to make sure you don't have a reason to bad mouth them. It makes you wonder how much has slipped through the cracks in the past when DNA testing was not required and so common as it is today. I do believe that most of these incidents where the DNA doesn't match up was unintentional or mistakes made somewhere in the process of identifying the parentage or handling of the samples. We all know that bulls and cows can sometimes find their ways into pastures they aren't supposed to be in or in a large operation 2 cows calving at the same time might claim the wrong calf. Odds are it is bound to happen once in awhile with all the various scenarios that are possible. We went through something similar to this once on some semen we bought in the 90's from a VERY reputable breeder who has been in the business for multiple generations now. Went to register the calves we had and found out the bull had not been certified for AI yet. The breeder went through the AI certification process and found out the parentage did not match up. Sire was right but dam was not, well they only run about 400-500 cows and submitted samples on any possibilities but couldn't find a match so they assumed the dam may have been a cow they no longer had. Well now we had some really nice yearling heifers we could not register and another group of calves by this bull on the ground that would be nothing but commercial females in our registered purebred herd which set us back 2 years of calves on some of our top cows. We were disappointed that they weren't able to match up the parentage as they were some very nice calves we had by that bull. The breeder worked with us and purchased all the females sired by their bull from us at a fair price and took them back to use in their commercial herd. We've even done some business with them since then and have no hard feelings about it since it was an unintentional mistake which they took responsibility for and provided compensation for it. That's why they have been in the business as long as they have been and their cattle sells well because the do things the right way. [/QUOTE]
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