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<blockquote data-quote="Ky hills" data-source="post: 1781768" data-attributes="member: 24816"><p>It's been quite a while since I paid any attention to AI bulls. I looked up those two. Gar Ashland is a bull that I would use if I were going that route. His frame /height are where I like it, and as far as selling commercial calves those GAR type calves do pretty well. The bulls seem to slick off good and are reliable in the breeding pasture. I would be interested to follow along with the progress of your calves by him. The other Rainmaster bull would be a definite no for me, even though he may work ok for some.</p><p>His whole pedigree would have me running the other way. Charlo was too short I don't care how thick he was which he definitely was just doesn't have the frame needed for here. With 004 in the pedigree he would never ever be used here just on disposition alone. I've never seen one that didn't hit the sale ring like runaway freight train, and the relatives I've had by his sire 8180 and brother Final Answer were similar. Other reasons too, but there again a lot of folks swear by them and think they are great.</p><p>As for those not being related. It's when those calves are sold and go to other herds that are made up of similar genetic combinations. The more widespread that bulls are used the more chance they have of converging back together. Those decedents of 8180, are pretty common around here.</p><p>Good luck with your selections, I hope they all work well, it's always exciting to see the fruits of your labor progress along, I miss that part of registered cattle.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ky hills, post: 1781768, member: 24816"] It’s been quite a while since I paid any attention to AI bulls. I looked up those two. Gar Ashland is a bull that I would use if I were going that route. His frame /height are where I like it, and as far as selling commercial calves those GAR type calves do pretty well. The bulls seem to slick off good and are reliable in the breeding pasture. I would be interested to follow along with the progress of your calves by him. The other Rainmaster bull would be a definite no for me, even though he may work ok for some. His whole pedigree would have me running the other way. Charlo was too short I don’t care how thick he was which he definitely was just doesn’t have the frame needed for here. With 004 in the pedigree he would never ever be used here just on disposition alone. I’ve never seen one that didn’t hit the sale ring like runaway freight train, and the relatives I’ve had by his sire 8180 and brother Final Answer were similar. Other reasons too, but there again a lot of folks swear by them and think they are great. As for those not being related. It’s when those calves are sold and go to other herds that are made up of similar genetic combinations. The more widespread that bulls are used the more chance they have of converging back together. Those decedents of 8180, are pretty common around here. Good luck with your selections, I hope they all work well, it’s always exciting to see the fruits of your labor progress along, I miss that part of registered cattle. [/QUOTE]
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